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Re: Classic era damaged windows/doors.
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lugnet.general, lugnet.town
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Thu, 18 May 2000 17:21:07 GMT
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James Simpson wrote:
> In lugnet.general, Gary R. Istok writes:
> > Anyone who has LEGO from the early classic era (1957-1977) probably has
> > old windows and doors that are either faded, discolored, pitted, without
> > glass, or old faded Cellulose Acetate (the red windows are almost orange
> > in color). Well I came up with solution for my old damaged windows that
> > would otherwise never get used. I spray painted them! (AWK, GASP,
> > COUGH!!!!!!!) Yes you heard me, I spray painted them..... BLACK! I
> > have a few (mint) classic era windows in black, and I used them to match
> > the exact color of black modelling paint you can get at any toy store
> > that sells models. The results are quite good. I have a hard time
> > telling the painted black windows from the originals. And since black
> > classic windows are very very rare, these will really stand out.
> >
> > I chose black because it is the easiest color to match exactly. I now
> > have about 30 windows that I have done this to (when you have as many as
> > I have, there are a large number that are damaged). Last fall Larry P.
> > stopped by for a visit, and he was appalled when he saw them, heh-heh.
> >
> > But if I would have left these windows unpainted, they would have been
> > useless to me. They were that badly discolored/damaged.
> >
> > Note: I don't paint Cellulose Acetate windows just because they are
> > CA. I paint them only when they meet the same damage criteria as the
> > ABS ones. I usually segregate CA windows into separate buildings so as
> > not to make their different color obvious.
> >
> > I plan on building a single building with all of these windows. From
> > preliminary work, I think the results will be quite good. This is one
> > reason why I am pushing for re-release of the classic era windows, and
> > in new colors (black, yellow, blue, gray).
> >
> > Also, on a similar note, of all the classic era windows/doors, the most
> > fragile was the classic door, whose handle often got broken off. When
> > that happens, voila! you have a 1x2x3 window (same size as the 1x2x3
> > small train window). I personally like these doors because without the
> > handle, these doors are an exact 1/3 version of the large classic 1x6x3
> > picture window. If the handle is broken off, or partly broken off, I
> > remove any excess plastic remaining from the handle. Sometimes I will
> > take a right hand classic door, a left hand classic door, and one of
> > these handle-less doors and make a 3 piece grouping of them. Granted
> > this is not originally the way LEGO was intended. But I like to make
> > the best of a bad situation!
> >
> > Gary Istok
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> That sounds like a great idea...can you advise as to what particular paint you
> use? How do I determine the ABS from the CA? One of the problems that I have
> with my classic window is that the clear panes are often scratched. Have you
> ever attempted to replace scratched panes with some plastic material?
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> Also regarding the classic windows (and out of curiosity), I have a 1w x 2l x 2h
> yellow window from Universal set 114; is this considered a rare color?
>
> Sorry to deluge you with all of these questions, but any info. would be great as
> I would desperately like to salvage any classic windows that I can.
Hey no problem with the questions, I don't mind sharing info.
I'll check the paint spray can tonight at home. But you should be able to take any
new black brick (2x4), take it to a hobby store, and compare the brick color/gloss
with the top to the spray cans of black spray paint. Make sure the paint is useable
for plastic.
CA windows have a tendancy to warp slightly (you can't tell easily on the smaller
ones). CA red windows have an orange hue to them. CA white windows are whiter than
ABS. Old ABS white windows have a tendancy to yellow with age. CA seems to keep
its whiteness better than ABS. CA windows were only ever sold in red or white.
Here is a breakdown on classic windows/doors : Red and white windows are common
(even old CA windows are common). Yellow windows are common in the 1x2x2, but
scarce in other sizes. Blue classic windows were only produced in 1x2x2 and they
are somewhat common (they also produced a 1x3x2 blue window in one of the 1980's
train locomotive, and they are rare). Black classic windows were only ever produced
in the smaller sizes, and all are rare. Gray classic windows were only produced in
1x2x2, and they are rare.
Gary Istok
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