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  some set info from S@H
 
called s@h just now to get some info on 8450 and 8457... they said that 8450 never was available and is listed as "discontinued" (it makes me cry)... and they said that 8457 will be available at the end of the month, but you can order it now (...) (24 years ago, 25-Aug-00, to lugnet.technic)

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