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(...) Hydraulics and pneumatics are similar. Pneumatics uses air, which is a gas and can be compressed. Air pressure difference is what makes pneumatics work. Hydraulics uses fluids which compresses a little, but not much compared to gasses. Both (...) (19 years ago, 23-Nov-05, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) <snip> (...) <snip> (...) <snip> (...) <snip> (...) Wow! Great stuff! But why hypothetical? Would have loved to see the running engine and how it compares with the traditional ones using just compressed air, which was the original question. (...) (19 years ago, 22-Nov-05, to lugnet.technic)
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Kevin Clague- How can a lego pneumatic do hydraulic work? If I'm not much mistaken, hydraulics and pneumatics use two diferent sources of power. (19 years ago, 22-Nov-05, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Yes, I was wondering what method should be used to bleed them successfully. The clamp idea is a good one. My compressor is very basic. I don't have buggy motors. To build the pressure/vac engine all you would have to do, I assume, is split the (...) (19 years ago, 22-Nov-05, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) You will undoubtedly have to bleed the air out of the system when you put in your hydraulic fluid. Otherwise the system won't perform as well. (...) Kev (19 years ago, 22-Nov-05, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Hi Billy, Well, my recollection of a composite five port switch was faulty. When I tried to create a two piston timing circuit (precursor to motor), it would leak because all four switches would be on, letting pressure directly through to (...) (19 years ago, 22-Nov-05, to lugnet.technic)
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Hi, Single LEGO pneumatic switches are not capable of controlling a pneumatic system that uses both pressure and vacuum to drive a given cylinder at the same time. A single switch does not let you capture the exhaust inherint when a piston contracts (...) (19 years ago, 22-Nov-05, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.announce.moc) !
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(...) Calum, The great thing about NQJ aka Brick It Forward is that there is no ending time set. Just to keep you in the loop, I was in deep discussion with several people yesterday who were offering me fantastic sets. I am not at liberty to name (...) (19 years ago, 22-Nov-05, to lugnet.market.jambalaya, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, lugnet.general, lugnet.technic, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Having now made a hydraulic pump, I figured it was time to go to the next step and make a compressor. (URL) This is the first working model. Again, the tank represents the load. I decided to use the pump motor as the switch mechanism for my (...) (19 years ago, 22-Nov-05, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) I don't understand this statement. (...) In this compressor/engine schematic I drew yesterday, vaccume is the exhaust for pressure, and pressure is the exhaust for vaccume inside the engine. The part of the compressor that creates vaccume (...) (19 years ago, 21-Nov-05, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) To be honest, I never actually intended it to be used in an engine. And to be more truthful, I just buitl my first pneumatic engine a couple of days ago, so my knowledge on the subject is a bit, archaic. I wanted to create a closed circuit (...) (19 years ago, 21-Nov-05, to lugnet.technic)
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I think most certainly a combined fluidics would be in order first. Im surprised there was not already a .pneumatics, as it would seem like an obvious group. Not that I have contributed, but I do follow the pneumatics thread with great interest. I (...) (19 years ago, 21-Nov-05, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Nice work. With the exhaust sealed off, I figure the piston will move up and down gradually and gracefully rather than the quick movement that we're used too, because of the cushioning effect. This would be fine for an application like a (...) (19 years ago, 21-Nov-05, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) No - exhaust! (...) You need to eventually discharge the compressed air (or vacuum) in a pneumatic system. Interestingly enough, this is the first time I heard of a pneumatic system using compressed air and vacuum at the same time. Usually (...) (19 years ago, 21-Nov-05, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Here we go. I finally got some pictures of my progress. (URL) The tank represents the load on the circuit. (URL) And this is with the ram for the load. I am very pleased to find that it works. (URL) Its interesting to me too. Rather odd that (...) (19 years ago, 21-Nov-05, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Andrew, It is so interesting that you broached the topic of vaacume/pressure pressure at the same time as the hydraulic question. In many ways they are the same problem. Containment. With vaccume/pressure you need a switch with containable (...) (19 years ago, 21-Nov-05, to lugnet.technic, FTX)
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(...) I would certainly think so. I'm very interested in this LEGO pneumatic for a hydraulic system idea. Billy. (19 years ago, 21-Nov-05, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) That IS odd! And thank you for the reassurance. I have just completed attaching a load to the pump. Basically I just copied my pump and used it as my load. Using the pupm and alternating the valves and strokes, the load ram moved outward as (...) (19 years ago, 21-Nov-05, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) That's the whole purpose! Methinks we'll be needing a lugnet.pneumatics and maybe a lugnet.hydraulics or a combined lugnet.fluidics, pretty soon. What say, fellas? CS (19 years ago, 21-Nov-05, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) What makes you think you are a bother! I'm having fun! I beleive that the four switch/four T solution is what you need to create a hydraulic motor. The pressure+vaccume engine I posted earlier today could just as easily be a hydraulic motor, (...) (19 years ago, 21-Nov-05, to lugnet.technic)
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