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Re: Building big
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Mon, 18 Jun 2001 01:47:15 GMT
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2) Panels and hinges.  Here's the opposite extreme - have a few brick structures
tying in a bunch of panels and hinges to build the outer skin of the ship.  You
still need structural stability, but that's often hidden inside.  Having panels
and using hinges to mount them gives a much more interesting shape, and lends to
the SNOT or 'Studs Not On Top' building style.  These ships are very lightweight
compared to the brick ships, but they don't take a beating like the brick ones
do.  You have to be very careful to keep the panels on and if its on display you
might have to fix it often due to inquisitive hands.  This style lends to the
most interesting ship designs, but often the weakest, unless done right.

<snip>

I think that ships look and function the best when they use both bricks and
panels.  This means sacrificing a little from both extremes - ships having some
studs-up brick walls, along with panel walls.  This still gives the interesting
shapes panel ships have, but it gets more of the strength and stability of a
brick ship as well.

Example - Joel Kuester's Benevolent Grace [1].  Aside from the size of this
thing (I could lay down inside of it - its 8ft long!!!!) - I am impressed with
the techniques he built it with.  Joel designed this ship using a lot of bricks
for an exoskeleton of sorts -- there are big black brick beams that wrap around
the ship.  Then he filled in the gaps with panels, and almost all of them fold
out, come off, or flip up to get access to the inside.  They serve a double
purpose, access to the interior by humans for this 4 deck monster, and
interestingly sloped sides to create a pleasing shape.

Another good example of using lots of panels and lots of bricks would be my
160 stud long big ship:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=41339 Which is as of now
still unnamed and unpublished. The interior is full of brick walls and
technic beams. I first built the ship with just technic beams holding up all
the floors, but when interior detail was added, the walls that seperated the
various rooms helped stregthen it a great bit.

A good strong base is also very important, and my ship has a set up of:
a layer of plates,
a layer of technic beams and regular bricks,
and another layer of plates.

Another important method I used was to attach the techinc beams that are
supporting different levels together with more technic beams. This has made
it VERY sturdy. It has been sitting on the floor being supported by 2 stacks
at the extreme far ends of the ship of those weird 6x6x2 parts in the TIE
fighters for about a month now. And it has yet to buckle in the middle. I
can pick it up with 2 hands rather easily but I'm very nervous holding it
cause it's so big, heavy, and ackward to move. That's also the reason why it
has yet to venture out of my basement.

If anyone is wondering how I got all that grey, It's mostly from 5 Sith
Infiltrators( grey plates pack!), and 3 X wings (most bought on sale of
course), and then I got some grey bricks off brickbay.

My collection is 'only' about 30k (
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/mlist.cgi?m=791) so I think that shows you dont
need 'tons' of parts to go big...

<snip>

Nice tips timmah, I totally agree.

HTH

--Kyle
http://hvl.cjb.net



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  Re: Building big
 
In lugnet.space, Kyle Keppler writes: <snippity-snip-snip> (...) <snip> (...) Actually, I agree with Tim. Tim and I had a lot of fun helping Scott with building his capital ship this past weekend. Particularly while we watched "Cooking with Jon" and (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
  Re: Building big
 
(...) real picture available of your ship and not a picture drawn on the computer? The second question is where are the wings on your space craft? I apologize for not being able to appreciate some of the larger space craft but I was one of those (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)
  Re: Building big
 
(...) Heh. I've always liked that ship, but I finally figured out why today: It makes me think of a platypus! :) Okay, a platypus bedecked with cannon and engines, but still... Nice job with the photo, btw! best LFB (23 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)

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  Re: Building big
 
"Zac Soden" <zac_soden@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:GF3DH9.HCy@lugnet.com... (...) Hehe...this after just spending a weekend building on two different large spaceships using two different building techniques. Let me try to answer :-) Ok, the (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jun-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.loc.au)

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