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Re: Rack-and-pinion steering line tracker
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Sun, 9 Jan 2000 18:27:02 GMT
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[May the rest of the group forgive me for pointing to my design again--but I
was obsessed with it for a month ...]

http://www.wordsmithdigital.com/mindstorms/rack-and.htm .

:)

--The WordMeister
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Rendle <rendle2000@hotmail.com>
To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com <lego-robotics@crynwr.com>
Date: Sunday, January 09, 2000 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: Rack-and-pinion steering line tracker


I'm working on my first original robot, having built the 3 in the
Constructopedia and modified them a bit. I'm currently on my 4th R&P • design:
the first two just didn't work, and the 3rd had a turning circle larger • than
my living room. It incorporates a light sensor by running a second set of
gears off the motor drive, and attaching a 2x12 plank to a large cog (40
tooth?). The light sensor is mounted on this, currently using an L-bend to
point it at the floor, but it will also point forwards when I have a go at
proximity detection.
Again, it's stunningly clunky. If anyone knows of or has a LEdit file of an
elegant R&P system I'd love to see it!

--
Mark R

www.markrendle.co.uk
Tilman Sporkert <lego-robotics@crynwr.com> wrote in message
news:NCBBKPAJLICLDDABDHAMAEEADGAA.tilman@activesw.com...
I too spent quite some time trying to build a steering mechanism from • standard
Mindstorms parts. After many rebuilds I still wasn't quite satisfied. The • final
version actually worked pretty well, but was much too bulky (not as bulky • as
Doug's version however :-) ), and the wheels were tilted inward too much • for my
taste. So I decided to see what I could do with some more specialized • Lego
parts. I could have just bought the service pack with the various Lego • steering
mechanism parts from S@H. But no, I decided to use it as an excuse to buy • all
sorts of Technic sets. Along the way I learned that Lego can't make up • their
mind about how to build a steering mechanism either. There are so many
variations!

About the return to center problem: My solution is to incorporate the • light
sensor into the steering mechanism. Mount it at the end of a short arm • pointing
forward, ahead of your wheels. This has two advantages:
- You will get a much smoother steering vehicle, with gradual steering
movements.
- You don't have to worry about centering the steering mechanism.

With the traditional approach, you will be sensing that you are off the • track.
But you don't really know how far to turn the wheels to stay on the • track.
So
you make a best guess, turn too far, until you are back on center. Now • you
have
to figure out how to go straight again.

With my approach, you keep the light sensor on the track all the time, • and
the
vehicle sort of follows it. As soon as the sensor moves off center, you • start
steering to keep the sensor on the track. The steering system is now part • of a
direct feedback loop, and will always point in the right direction.

This of course doesn't make the steering system any easier. You now have • to turn
three things - the two wheels, and the arm that holds the sensor.

Tilman


I spent a _lot_ of time trying to get a non-sensored R&P steering • system
to
work, using pulleys, rubber bands (both as drives and springs), and
you-name-it! I finally gave up, but did manage to build one with only • _one_
sensor that was very effective.

See http://www.wordsmithdigital.com/mindstorms/ for a scan and my • described
history of running my head into the wall. Should get you started in the
right direction--or avoid getting you started in the wrong direction.

Ironically, I've started playing with roboticizing the 8479 as well!

--Doug Wilcox






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