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Re: lack of interest in basic stamp and basicx
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Tue, 23 Nov 1999 19:22:02 GMT
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From a somewhat-less-technical background:

I think I have enough electronics tinkering experience to breadboard
together some of the "home brew" sensors--if I do build 'em, the first would
probably be the $3.50 temperature sensor, although of more immediate utility
(i.e., fun) would be some dual-color LED bricks.

I don't, however, have a good programming background--just some ancient
BASIC and some more recent complex formula-writing experience. I can,
however, fathom NQC, and am currently taking my first steps in it--but can
see where it might be a bit difficult to learn without any experience
programming at all (and, to be honest, the MindStorms drag-n-drop doohickey
is quite easy to use and not.all that inflexible--and my son Isaac the
Wonder Boy can operate it with minimal help). But it is very unlikely that
I'll be programming the RCX in pbForth or C++ anytime soon, especially as
the RCC/NQC combination will do everything I need it to that the MindStorms
software won't.

One of my favorite features of Lego MindStorms is its inherent
accessibility. Although I've read about, and I'm sure I would enjoy the
BASIC stamp, the fact is that MindStorms is cheaper and easier-to-build. My
4-year-old and I have a great time working on MindStorms projects. I'm not
sure the same would be true of the more advanced platforms.

Some _wonderful_ opinions on this issue. This has been a fun thread.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Perret <jperret@cybercable.fr>
To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com <lego-robotics@crynwr.com>
Date: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: lack of interest in basic stamp and basicx




Hi
I am a little bit curious as to why there seems to
be such a lack of interest in the Parallax Basic Stamp
and its new high powered alternative the Basicx.


What I've always wondered about the Basic Stamp is why anyone would
want to use Basic to program an microcontroller.
I love Basic but when coding for a robot I want to take full
advantage of the hardware, and that means programming it in Forth
or C. There isn't anything you can do in Basic that you can't do
by programming the firware yourself.
The same goes for NQC or orther tools relying on the standard Lego
firmware. Why people insist on using the Lego firmware when it
imposes completely artificial limitations on things you can do in
your programs ?
I don't mean to say that NQC is not an outstanding tool, I just
don't understand why people who are ready to mess with electronics
to build homemade sensors don't take the plunge and code directly
to the metal...

Confused,
--Jonathan






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