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Subject: 
RE: LEGO RCX Skydivers
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lugnet.robotics
Date: 
Wed, 10 Nov 1999 00:09:30 GMT
Original-From: 
Jim Thomas <JIM.THOMAS@TRWnospam.COM>
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Robert's numbers look good, although compared to my numbers they look
conservative by about 10% -- I had 13.4 ft^3 per pound.  As far as envelopes
go, you basically have to make one from scratch.  It is not really that hard
you just need the right Mylar material and a hobby iron intended for heating
shrink covering for sailplanes (it looks like a small clothes iron on the
end of a handle).  The Mylar film that is used in the fancy metallic looking
helium balloons actually is coated on one side with something that will melt
to create the seal.  Unfortunately I don't remember what the composition was
or where we got it.  To get a nice and smooth blimp shape, construct it
using the same technique as a football.

I'll try to pull some of this together on my website.  I'm working on
getting picture scans of the one we built.

JT


-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Hardie [mailto:pete.hardie@dvsg.sciatl.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 2:15 PM
To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com
Subject: Re: LEGO RCX Skydivers


Robert Munafo wrote:

Either my calculations are wrong, or you have a different • concept of what is a
"staggering" amount of helium. Here are my calculations:

Each gram-mole of gas at STP [1] takes up 22.41 liters • (cubic decimeters) of
space.

The weight of a mole of air is about 28 grams (a little • more actually, but I'm
being generous), and the weight of a mole of helium is 4 • grams; thus the net
bouyancy per mole of helium is 24 grams [2]

Net bouancy per liter of helium = 24 / 22.41 = 1.07

Volume of a sphere 1 meter in diameter is 4/3 pi r^3, where • r is 5 decimeters,
which comes out to about 523.6 liters.

So a spherical balloon of 1-meter diameter and filled with • helium would have
about 560 grams of bouyancy, or about 19 ounces for you • non-Metric dudes.

For comparison, the "fish" blimp that swam around in the • Media Lab during its
first year or two was about 2-3 times this volume (same • diameter but about 3
times the length)

What am I missing?

Mostly my hyperbole....

Still, getting envelopes for that amount of helium is difficult.

--
Pete Hardie                   |   Goalie, DVSG Dart Team
Scientific Atlanta            |
Digital Video Services Group  |




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