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Frustration with NXT-G 1.1
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lugnet.robotics
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Tue, 13 May 2008 15:11:09 GMT
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Doug Wilcox <doug.wilcox@wordsmithdigital.com*avoidspam*>
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It's been a LONG time since I've posted.
I was thrilled when my wife presented me with an NXT for our anniversary, and have really enjoyed its capabilities. We migrated our MindStorms@Work group to use the NXT, and dug into NXT-G (since we already knew NQC).
At first glance, it appeared that the NXT-G was wonderful ... much more flexible and useful than the original Lego GUI, while still being relatively easy to use. My primary interest was in determining whether it would be easier to teach my kids NXT-G or NXC.
However, after repeatedly wrestling with "quirks" in NXT-G, I am ready to throw in the towel. For example, see this image http://www.wilcoxfamily.net/csort0511bd.jpg and the following description:
The gumball-sorter program on which my co-worker and I are working uses a switch statement with five possibilities. The switch statement is within a loop, which should exit if a counter monitoring "empty" attempts hits 5. Regardless of what I do, I can never get the extreme right side of the switch block to display, and can never get the data wire between the counter evaluator block and the loop condition to connect in a way that seems to do the right thing.
Add to this nuisances like "dead" wires being left onscreen, very weird things happened when cutting and pasting, problems with selection highlighting, etc., and you can see why I begin to wonder whether the software is _really_ that bad or if I am going crazy.
What experiences have you all had?
(RCX version of of the candy sorter is BLOGged here: http://mindstormsatwork.blogspot.com/ , while pictures of both RCX and NXT versions - very different designs - are here: http://picasaweb.google.com/MindStormsAtWork .)
Thanks.
--Doug Wilcox
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 | | RE: Frustration with NXT-G 1.1
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| There's a couple of descriptions of alternative programming environments on the web that you might want to look at. Check out the following: (URL) or (URL) wrote the second item which was published in Robot magazine. I'm one of the authors of (...) (16 years ago, 13-May-08, to lugnet.robotics)
| | | Re: Frustration with NXT-G 1.1
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| (...) Please let your wife know that she has *really* cool tastes in anniversary gifts :). (...) I still like it quite a bit, but it seems among adults I'm a minority (or an aberration... I've been called worse). I agree that the bugs in the IDE in (...) (16 years ago, 13-May-08, to lugnet.robotics)
| | | Re: Frustration with NXT-G 1.1
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| Doug, I share your frustration very much. as a child and a teenager i was a Lego Technic freak. In the last year i wanted to go back to my "roots" of enjoyment, and decided to buy the mindstorms NXT kit as a starter, because it seemed to me a cool (...) (15 years ago, 25-May-09, to lugnet.robotics)
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