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Re: Design
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lugnet.robotics
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Thu, 1 Dec 2005 10:34:20 GMT
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In lugnet.robotics, PeterBalch <PeterBalch@compuserve.com> wrote:
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> > I'd really like to find out what techniques/notations people
> > are using to design their robots and code.
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> For designing robots, I just search the web to see what other people have
> done. As Tom Lehrer said "Plagiarise, plagiarise - but always call it
> Reseach".
Better call it "inspiration" :)
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> For the software for mobile robots, I don't think anything beats Rodney
> Brooks's subsumption architecture. I draw little diagrams like the ones
> that his group draws. Then I do what he suggests: start at the bottom with
> the most primitive behaviours and work up. (BTW, I don't think that
> approach works for industrial robots.)
Have a look at http://www.convict.lu/Jeunes/Gaston/User_guide.htm and
http://www.convict.lu/Jeunes/RoboticsIntro.htm to find more or less complex LEGO
robots partly programmed according to the subsumption architecture.
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> My experience is that the overall architecture of robot software is easy.
> Getting the low-level stuff to work is what's hard. I don't think there are
> any people in the world who have got enough of the low-level stuff working
> that they have a big problem integrating it all together.
Depends on the language. If you are doing things with LabVIEW, programming -even
complex - becomes rather easy. Especially merging low-level stuff into
consistant programs is possible without loosing overview.
http://www.convict.lu/Jeunes/Mars/test.htm,
http://www.convict.lu/Jeunes/Mars/breaking_news.htm and
http://www.convict.lu/Jeunes/Mars_Mission_B/Mars_mission_III.htm is one example
of complex robot development in educational environment. (LabVIEW and
subsumption architecture !)
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> Most people are happy if their robot can get from A to B without getting
> stuck behind the sofa. And that includes 99% of universities. Sure, NASA
> may talk about building self-repairing robots that can diagnose their own
> faults but no-one has actually built a real robot complicated enough to
> benefit from that kind of philosophising. It's fun to speculate but it's a
> futile daydream until we've got robots that actually work.
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> I'm particularly interested in robot-programming languages, especially
> languages and HCIs for non-programmers or beginners. I've found the only
> way is to write the user interface and try it out.
Try LabVIEW, ROBOLAB and Ultimate ROBOLAB !
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> Peter
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