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Re: RCX program editors
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lugnet.robotics
Date: 
Tue, 5 Jan 1999 14:59:15 GMT
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Andy Bower <BOWER@OBJECT-ARTS.COMnospam>
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Denis,

I have just launched a collaborative web site for all things to do with Lego
Robotics. The site is at:

http://www.object-arts.com/wiki/html/Lego-Robotics/FrontPage.htm

For more details, you should also see my newsgroup post of the 5th January
entitled "New Collaborative website for Lego Robotics". I thought this might
be an appropriate place to stage your comparison of the various development
systems.

Best regards,
Andy Bower

-----Original Message-----
From: Denis Cousineau <lego-robotics@crynwr.com>
Newsgroups: lugnet.robotics
Date: 04 January 1999 20:50
Subject: RCX program editors


Hi guys, I've been using an RCX programable brick lately, and
maybe the worst part of it is the program editor made available
by the RIS kit.  I've looked on the web, and have found a number
of alternative.  If you don't mind, I call for your help to make
a survey of the available software, along with their strength and
weakness.

I will collect your comments, update, and send again this message
(updated) on RTL and lego-robotics-help@crynwr.com in one week.
If you happended to have used two or more of these editors, your
evaluation (on a scale of 1=poor to 5=excellent) is also welcome.

You can e-mail your evaluation, or post it, but avoid doing the
two things, It will be easier for me to avoid duplicates.
Thanks,
Denis
======================================================================

a) SOFTWARE COMPATIBLE WITH SPIRIT.OCX
Spirit.ocx is the ActiveX library that contains various procedure
to control, send program, exchange information with the RCX Brick.
       a.1-RIS LEGO program editor
               This is the standard editor available on the lego CD.
               This editor is visual.
               Pro:
               Con: Take too much screen space, is slow, and do
                       not use all of the available commands.
       a.2-BrickCommand
               This editor accept standard SPIRIT.OCX commands, check
               for the syntax, and download programs and firmware of
               your choice.
               Pro: is SPIRIT compatible, using SPIRIT langage
               Con: not fully debugged yet (newer version in progress)
       a.3-Mind Control
               This program is mostly a RCX manager.  It cannot
               edit program, but can download text file containing
               a SPIRIT-language command file.
               Pro: is SPIRIT compatible, using SPIRIT langage
               Con: no syntax check at writting time, no comment
allowed.
       a.4-RCX Command Center
               This program accept commands written in a language
               representing a cross between c and SPIRIT langage.
               Pro: Accept symbolic names for variables and tasks.
               Con: Does not look like SPIRIT language nor like
c-langage

b) SOFTWARE INTRODUCING THEIR OWN FIRMWARE=OS
To my knowledge, there is only one person that attempted to make
a new operating system to the RCX, in replacement of the previous
firmware (firmwre.lgo) made by lego corp.
       b.1-LegOS
               This new OS is used to increase the capabilities of
               the brick (in what way it is not clear as of now).
               It can be programmed with any compilers properly
               set.
               Pro: ?
               Con: no integrated environment (editor+compiler+
               downloader); requires some technical knowledge to
               configure the compiler.

======================================================================

c) REFERENCE
RIS LEGO program editor
version 1.0
Written by Lego corporation
http://www.legomindstorms.com

RCX Command Center
version 1.0
Written by Mark Overmars
using NQC from Dave Baum
markov@cs.uu.nl
http://www.cs.ruu.nl/people/markov/lego/rcxcc/index.html
http://www.enteract.com/~dbaum/lego/nqc/index.html

BrickCommand
Version 1.0
Written by Brian Cwikla
iguano_design@yahoo.com.
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Nebula/8488/lego.html

Mind Control
version 1.0.2
Eric Brok
http://homepages.svc.fcj.hvu.nl/brok/legomind/robo/
brok@fcjsvc.hvu.nl

LegOS
Version 0.1.4
written by Markus L. Noga
noga@inrialpes.fr
http://www.multimania.com/legos/


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