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Subject: 
RE: "real" LEGO Hovercraft ? (with/without batteries/RCX "onboard")
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Date: 
Sun, 1 Dec 2002 06:19:51 GMT
Original-From: 
Rob Limbaugh <RLIMBAUGH@GREENFIELDGROUP.COMihatespam>
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Brushless DC motors, such as those used in PC cooling fans, won't generate
enough power, even if the voltage is increased.  This is because they actually
have a switching circuit that changes polarity of the electromagnetic coils.

I've gotten a small (less than 1 square foot) piece of foam board to hover using
an older 12v fan with brushes and two 9v batteries in series.

Doesn't the thrust fan also have to overcome air leaking around the edge of the
fan blades and the thrust fan shroud?

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Baker [mailto:sjbaker1@airmail.net]
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 3:36 PM
To: PeterBalch
Cc: [unknown]
Subject: Re: "real" LEGO Hovercraft ? (with/without batteries/RCX
"onboard")


PeterBalch wrote:
I just tried

        a 5V processor cooling fan
        a 12V computer PSU cooling fan
        a 3V ducted fan of the sort used to cool your face
                (run at 5V without on-board batteries)

with a 16cm dia polystyrene plenum.

None could really lift their own weight - although the • processor cooling
fan just became a little easier to move.

I think you need a MUCH bigger area under the craft.  If all the
motors and stuff on top weighed (say) 100 grams, and you have just
16cm diameter skirt then you need a pressure of:

    0.1 / (PI x 0.008 x 0.008 )  kilograms/square meter

...in order to have it hover.

If you double the diameter of your skirt, you'll only need one quarter
as much pressure!  If you could build a light enough skirt that was
100 times bigger (1.6 meters in diameter), you'd only need one
ten-thousandth the amount of pressure to make it hover!
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(...) (Do you mean the "Lift Fan"? The "Thrust Fan" is the one that pushes the hovercraft forwards.) In the case of the lift fan, yes - because the pressure of the air in the skirt is higher than the air above the fan, it'll leak out anyway it can - (...) (22 years ago, 1-Dec-02, to lugnet.robotics)

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