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Re: Robotic Vision (was: Video image analisys)
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Date: 
Fri, 4 Feb 2000 17:06:18 GMT
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Marco C. <{marco@soporcel.}avoidspam{pt}>
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After checking Pong Suvan's apps/lib (http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/psksvp/),
I checked HALCON 5.2 (http://www.mvtec.com/), as was my intention.

HALCON looks like a very powerfull, well documented, well done and easy to
use (through HDeveloper and/or the COM version) software package.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but it has two disadvantages:

1) It looks like a *commercial* oriented package, well beyond my home Lego
robotic vision project. :(

2) It doesn't support general Video for Windows video cards/frame grabbers,
only specific models of frame grabbers.

So, I'll keep searching for a while and if I can't find any good
alternative, I'll stick to freeware Pong Suvan's good solution.

Any suggestions, links, etc.. on this subject are welcome to help me in
this project.

thxs :)


At 19:28 10-01-2000 GMT, Reimer Mellin wrote:
I am a proponent for HALCON from mvtec.com. Although I have to admit that I
am biased, as I have used HALCON during my thesis, its a very powerful
environment. The number of available operators ranges from simple low-level
image processing to high-level kalman filters and so on. Another prime
feature is the usage of regions instead of images. A region is an abstract
superclass of an image and can contain e.g. a list of lines, curves, objects
etc. . Obviously this not only saves space, but allows a program to combine
and interpret results more easily. The latest version has a VBA interface,
so it should be very easy to whip up a little VB program.

If I remember correctly, its essentially free for non-comercial use. check
it out @ www.mvtec.com

Cheers
   Reimer

Marco C. <lego-robotics@crynwr.com> wrote in message
news:3.0.6.32.20000110101213.021c91c0@gtlinux...
At 16:34 07-01-2000 GMT, David Leeper wrote:
Hi Marco,

Hi :)

I haven't done any vision processing yet, but plan to get into it • sometime
this summer.

Well, when you do, please keep us posted of your findings.
I'll try and do the same, time permiting.

In the meantime, I've been casually scanning the web for related sites.
Here's one you may find useful:
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/project/cil/ftp/html/vision.html

This is a great site about the subject.
I even found a image processing entry from a Portuguese University :)

I'm going to analise it more carefully, but for now, the real-time video
analisys examples I've seen are all comercial apps or demos.

I'm thinking of giving MS "vision" SDK a try...
(don't remember the proper name of the SDK)

If someone knows of other resources for source-code examples of computer
vision (real-time video analisys, video frame grabbing, etc), please let • us
know.

David Leeper (hopes this helps)

Yes, thxs ! :)



In lugnet.robotics, "Marco C." <marco@soporcel.pt> writes:
Has anyone done a PC-side program to do some video analisys, resulting in
op-code sending to RCX/CyberMaster action control ?

I want to do a "target" follower PC program, sending op-codes to my • pBrick
(CyberMaster) to control the X and Y rotation of a video camera.

I'm still waiting for an European version of XCam, so I'll do the first
tests with a camcorder connected to my ATI All-in-Wonder PRO video-in.

*First* I'll have to deal with the video frame grabbing, and frame
analisys, so the program can detect the moving of a specified target, and
instruct the pBrick acordingly to rotate the video-cam so that the target
stays within the center of the image.

er... has anyone done such a thing ?

Are there any source-code examples or how-to's ?

thxs :)

____________________
Marco C. aka McViper



____________________
Marco C. aka McViper



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