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Re: (Non-LEGO) Recommendation
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Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:20:54 GMT
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Mr L F Braun wrote in message ...
> In lugnet.pirates, Jeff Johnston writes:
> > For those who don't follow current events, the _Mary Rose_ was
> > commissioned by Henry VIII as a warship, but sank in a storm - somewhere
> > in the Channel I believe. Half the ship (the port side, if I remember
> > right)
> > was buried in the silt of the seabed, which preserved the timbers and even
> > some of the cargo. (The unstrung longbows they found encased in wax
> > were still in firing condition!)
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> Heavens! I didn't realise *that* either. All i knew is that
> the ship and some remnant of its cargo had been found, nothing
> more...now I'll ask for decent book recommendations on that!
> (Do you know if one's been published?)
OK, found my class notes from an SCA class on the Mary Rose last year...
Built about 1511, 32m long (110 feet), 13m from keel to top of stern castle,
refitted in 1527, laid up until another refit in 1536. Sank July 1545 in the
Solent (between Portsmouth and the Isle of Wight). Quote from the class
notes:
"As the Mary Rose raised her sails and began moving towards the retreating
galleys a wind caught her sails and she began to list. While this may be
proper technique for a racing yacht it does not work for a fighting ship
with 2 gun decks and 4 archery decks in the forecastle. As she tipped water
began pouring into the open gunports and she tipped more. Men and equipment
on the upper decks began sliding adding both to the shift in weight and more
confusion for the struggling mariners as they tried to save the ship. Below
unsecured guns began to shift in position. Within minutes all that was left
of the Mary Rose was a spot marked by her masts sticking out of the water to
mark her resting-place. Out of her total complement of 600 to 700 men a mere
30 or so survived. The remainder were trapped below decks or held secure by
the anti-boarding nets as the ship went down."
Recovery attempts were made in the same year but they could only get some of
the guns up: her keel was embedded 6 feet into hard clay and the
would-be-recoveries couldn't get lines under her. In 1836 the Deane brothers
found the wreck and brought up 16 guns, longbows, pottery, etc etc.
Bibliography:
The Mary Rose (Margaret Rule, 1982)
The Story of the Mary Rose (Ernie Bradford, 1982)
King Henry VIII's Mary Rose (Alexander McKee, 1973)
and a websites:
http://www.maryrose.org
Hope that's useful!
Kevin
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| On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Kevin Wilson (<G4sqoA.3K6@lugnet.com>) wrote at 17:20:54 (...) There was a programme about this on Channel 4 recently, which went to the length of making a 1:20 model of the ship, to see if the above theory could be proven. The (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.pirates)
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| (...) I'll have to see it--real pity about the interior being altered, though I guess I can't blame them--the tea clippers weren't exactly passenger liners. (...) Heavens! I didn't realise *that* either. All i knew is that the ship and some remnant (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.pirates)
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