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Re: Geobra Society
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.people
Date: 
Sat, 18 Sep 2004 01:22:47 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.suggestions, Alfred Speredelozzi wrote:
   In lugnet.admin.suggestions, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.admin.suggestions, Matthew Miller wrote:
   newsgroup list trimmed

Johannes ‘Jojo’ Koehler chutspe@gmx.net wrote:
   For this reason I’d very much like to have a place to meet other devoted LEGO supporters who also have a weakness for Playmobil to share our thoughts, to feel understood and not singled out. It would be great if it was possible to incorporate a newsgroup lugnet.playmobil where we playmo lovers could swap our ideas and feelings for Playmobil without

Does Playmobil produce Lego system-compatible elements? If so, such discussion would be entirely appropriate in lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, and if there is enough interest and traffic in that group, perhaps creating a more specific subgroup would be appropriate.

Are gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgendered people? If so, such discussions would be entirely appropriate in Lugnet.people, and if there is enough interest and traffic in that group, perhaps creating a more specific subgroup would be appropriate.

JOHN

precisely! :)

I wonder why no one else can see it?

Also, as Larry had suggested, if the Lavender Brick Society actually existed, then they should qualify to have a Lugnet forum under the .org heirarchy. I think this is all Teddy was asking for.

The reason I called everyone homophobic (granted, it was an hyperbole--no one is actually threatening gay AFOLs, that I have seen) is because I think people are overreacting to Teddy’s request. Many have assumed there is going to be some Lugnet.gay discussion group formed, and they want to stop it. Well, that wasn’t even proposed!

Anyway, I think Teddy’s request is a very healthy thing for the AFOL community. It means we are really growing. We now represent such a large slice of our world in general that we are having discussions about LGBT groups. I think that means we are less of a specific fringe hobbyist group and are more mainstream. That’s cool to me.

-Alfred

Alfred, the problem is that you label people with a negative term that you know (you admit above) technically do not deserve the label. There is no homophobia in the posts you are talking about - these people are expressing legitimate reasons for their positions. You wind up knowingly mischaracterizing people because they simply show disagreement on an issue. Tactics like this are often used by people to kill off legitimate debate on issues, and smear one side by damaging or destroying their character. I don’t necessarily believe this was your intention, but you should realize that by the way you applied the use of the term ‘homophobia’ you are equating legitimate disagreement (or non-approval) with homophobia - and that’s a pretty big leap from what true homophobia is.

I guess in 21st Century America we can’t ever have a legitimate disgreement with anyone on anything or we’ve all got some kind of phobia.



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(...) precisely! :) I wonder why no one else can see it? Also, as Larry had suggested, if the Lavender Brick Society actually existed, then they should qualify to have a Lugnet forum under the .org heirarchy. I think this is all Teddy was asking (...) (20 years ago, 17-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.people, FTX)

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