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Re: LUGNET Memberships
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lugnet.people
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Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:01:20 GMT
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Umm...Todd, you said we can join but those who do not want to pay they do not
have to, right? If so how come you cannot finish the form without filling the
$____ parts out? For example if you leace it blank you get:
"Information missing:
Membership fee: US$
Portion I am paying now: $ "
Z. Unger :?
PS: If possible email me the answer...
In lugnet.people, Todd Lehman writes:
> In lugnet.people, "Richard Franks" writes:
> > In lugnet.people, Alex Roode writes:
> > > Ummm...
> > > I don't really want to pay anything... do I have to?
> >
> > Nope!
> >
> >
> > > And if I don't, will I still be able to post messages on LUGNET?
> >
> > Yep! AFAIK, everything you see here today is free, and will continue to be • so.
> > What memberships will give you is the ability to have an 'identity' on • Lugnet,
> > and participate in Auctions where Lugnet is an active hub. There are a lot • more
> > things to come in the future (see the long-term plan on the first web-page),
> > obviously including things we haven't even thought of yet! But for now,
> > membership for me means support for something that I think is worthwhile,
> > deserves to grow, and also a way to say thanks!
> >
> > But as Todd wrote in the message that you responded to - membership isn't
> > something for everyone.
>
>
> I'm sending out a follow-up message to clarify things... I pasted a copy
> below...
>
> (Yuck, I hate sending out unsolicited e-mail in quantities like this -- it
> feels like spamming. :-( Last time anything like this went out to everyone
> who'd registered to post was about a year ago. Once a year is more than
> enough, if you ask me. I wish I'd made a checkbox for "email me important
> announcements about new LUGNET features" so that people who might not want
> to see this wouldn't have to...)
>
> --Todd
>
>
>
> ============================================================================
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> <Gulp!> Sorry about the confusion, folks!
>
> Several people wrote in and asked whether LUGNET memberships and/or the
> fees were mandatory.
>
> The answer is no -- definitely not.
>
> Nothing about LUGNET is changing, except that something new (memberships)
> are being added. The memberships are 100% optional. You don't have to,
> and aren't expected to, become a member unless you yourself want to.
>
> The word "membership" is somewhat confusing because LUGNET has only had
> users up until now, and it's mostly only the old-timers who remember the
> original LUGNET Plan documents which talked about memberships. So...
>
> - A "user" is someone who accesses data in the system and reads news
> and possibly also posts messages. (This is about 3000 people over
> the past year.) And this is all free. Nothing is changing here.
>
> - A "member" is someone who has all the capabilities of a "user" but
> also has a personal page on the website and an actual account with a
> password and a member ID number and lots of other neat things into the
> future (like holding auctions and participating in formal surveys and
> voting and things like that).
>
> So, just to reiterate -- if you don't want to pay anything, then you don't
> have to -- and you can keep using LUGNET exactly as you have been.
>
> No money is being charged for news or data or anything like that.
> Memberships are just something extra -- something to form the backbone
> of new infrastructures being built atop everything else.
>
> Here are a couple relevant pages describing a bit about memberships,
>
> http://www.lugnet.com/admin/plan/4.html
> http://www.lugnet.com/admin/plan/8.html
>
> from the LUGNET Plan document which was published in late 1997:
>
> http://www.lugnet.com/admin/plan/
>
> Again, I apologize for any confusion...I should have made it more clear in
> the first message.
>
> If anyone has any more questions, feel free to ask them on the lugnet.people
> newsgroup:
>
> http://www.lugnet.com/people/
>
> Over and out,
> --Todd
>
> p.s. About 90 people have filled out membership enrollment forms so far
> in the past 36 hours.
>
>
>
> Todd Lehman wrote:
> > I'm happy to announce that formal LUGNET memberships are now available. :)
> >
> > Things won't be very fancy initially (no map or other web-toys yet) but this
> > gets the ball rolling and begins to pave the way for much more to come later
> > down the road.
> >
> > At this point, the memberships probably aren't something for everyone, since
> > they don't actually do anything (for now, they just store data about you),
> > but it's still kinda fun. Here's how to sign up:
> >
> > http://www.lugnet.com/people/members/join/
> >
> > From there, you can hop to the actual enrollment form. The form is quite
> > the little beastie to fill out, so I recommend printing a hardcopy and
> > jotting down a few notes before beginning.
> >
> > Take your time filling out the form -- there's no rush to get into in queue
> > -- because the member ID numbers are assigned upon receiving the membership
> > fee, not upon receiving the completed form. (In other words, while a day or
> > two might make a difference, a few minutes or hours certainly won't.)
> >
> > It was suggested a while ago that the lifetime membership fee be a high
> > number since it was a for-life kind of thing, or to charge some sort of
> > periodic subscription fee, but we wanted it to be much more open and simple
> > than that, and, most importantly, easily affordable for anyone.
> >
> > So we set it up that you pay what you think is fair, based on what the value
> > of LUGNET is to you, with the minimum being 10 dollars (U.S.) for lifetime
> > membership, leaving anything else up to you.
> >
> > Enjoy!
> > --Todd
> >
> > p.s. Here's the announcement posting and its related thread if you're
> > interested in following along... http://www.lugnet.com/announce/?n=376
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Message has 2 Replies:
 | | Re: LUGNET Memberships
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| I believe that Todd meant that you don't have to pay to USE Lugnet, but you do have to pay the $10.US to become a MEMBER. I think that maybe that some people would sort of like support another person, by paying the fee for them if that person is (...) (25 years ago, 16-Nov-99, to lugnet.people)
| | | Re: LUGNET Memberships
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| (...) No, not exactly. (1) Anyone can join. (2) No one has to pay to continue using LUGNET. Those are both true statements. But not paying to join implies not joining. In other words, it's not a true statement that someone can join without paying. (...) (25 years ago, 16-Nov-99, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)
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| | Re: LUGNET Memberships
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| (...) I'm sending out a follow-up message to clarify things... I pasted a copy below... (Yuck, I hate sending out unsolicited e-mail in quantities like this -- it feels like spamming. :-( Last time anything like this went out to everyone who'd (...) (25 years ago, 16-Nov-99, to lugnet.people)
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