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| (...) No, that's the *minor* or secondary point. The major point is what NELUG should do, and I continue to assert "none of your (and my) business" is the correct answer. Worldwide membership or no, what really matters is the realistic membership (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) Wait! How can you both say that maturity isn't directly attributable to age and then support _any_ age cut-off. This makes it sound like you're just trying to implement a change for...<blink, blink>...for what? Maybe for Shiri specifically? (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) Well, there's rather less between comment and chide than there is between comment and demand, I guess. I'd say "NELUG may find that their policy may be detrimental in the long run" is a comment, "NELUG are very wrong to not immediately change (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) We who? Who needs to be satisfied? (...) You might wish to try and support this claim. Go back and read. Matt has in no way acted immature about this. Chris (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) What's the diff? Chris (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) Luckily you know all, or is that you are a know-all. Actually you were demanding, as per usual. (...) a (...) other (...) LEGO (...) There are no geographic restrictions on membership, read the thread. (...) You (...) Glad we have agreed on (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) You are. Although there have been more aussies than just you participating, you've been the chider, that's my read of the thread. (...) Well, no, the main issue is about access to NELUG. As I said, it's no one's business who to let in except (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| In lugnet.org.us, Larry Pieniazek writes: snippage of larry's well-made points. (...) unless (...) "Outside" and "aussies", why generalise Larry when it can only mean one person. Who is chiding and demanding now ? The whole issue is about access to (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| All right, After watching this evolve for a few hours from the (mostly silent) sidelines, and getting a general idea about opinions, I'll post another one. As much as I want the NELUG members to include me, I certainly do NOT want to corner them (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug) !
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| In lugnet.org.us, Shiri Dori writes: <snip> Here are my opinions, in case anyone cares. I admit I haven't read the whole discussion yet (theres a lot to read and I will but wanted to "fire" first and ask questions later so to speak) (OK, I went back (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) I don't think it's unreasonable to expect many (or even most) meetings to not allow kids who need supervision. I think it is somewhat unreasonable for the organization to flat out exclude the possibility. (...) But perhaps in the end, it isn't (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| Shiri Dori wrote: I don't think that ý have any right to say something about it, but anyway, here is my 2 Turkish Liras: (...) Actually, being a Lego fan is much more difficult for a teen (I mean 15-17) than the real adults like us. They are more (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) as (...) No I did read the whole message. What I'm trying to do is get you to re- examine the reasoning that led to the feeling the group had to be adult only. So far, the only issues which I can accept as legitimate which have been raised are (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) So what are you going to do when some 21 year old demonstrates the maturity of a 3 year old? As far as the maturity issue goes, all you're doing by specifying an age is reducing the number of potential conflicts, you can't eliminate them. So (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) Yep, I was. (...) Exactly. -Tim (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) feel (...) Oops... I'm starting to recall that you were pressing for a non-NELUG meeting so that Shiri could attend (but that's all just a muddle). On the other hand, as I pointed out before, nothing magical (except a few stupid legalities) (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| I mean: (...) ^ -mis (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) to (...) based (...) that (...) NELUG (...) that (...) having (...) Well, frankly (to be frank as is my right as a Frank... :-), I see NELUGs insistence on being adult only as being stupid and political. I think that such attitudes have no (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) Actually, I was 18 at the time. I turned 18 the end of February this year. -Tim (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) That was the one part of your post I was replying to. I don't think I removed anything relevant to my reply or that would characterize what you're saying. If I did, I apologize. (...) That I don't doubt. I'm concerned about consequences for (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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