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  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) I think you started replying before you read the whole message: (...) We felt that we had to draw the line somewhere. I don't remember the particulars of other people's opinions on this next point, but personally I think making exceptions / (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
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  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) Here, you go again, selective snipping. (...) What LUG isn't different from a kids club. We wouldn't even blink if a sixteen year old wanted to attend. But then in Australia we don't have a lawyer on every corner. (...) Rules need to be (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) I think Matther is giving consideration to Shiri's request. He has stated that he is willing to bring the issue up again in a future meeting. Let's not allow our frustration with the situation cause us to start throwing bricks (and I will (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)  
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) This supervision is something that we really don't want -- we don't want anyone not interested in Lego at our meetings. (...) Again, this is a good point. A line had to be drawn somewhere, and the legal age of majority seemed like a sensible (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) So Shiri isn't a "serious" LEGO fan? My dictionary doesn't define "serious" as implying "adult". I have to admit that I've never joined any sort of "users group" (<sick humor>of course if one uses the coloquial definition of "user" then I'm (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) It's not ironic; it's intentional. We're not hard-hearted evil people. See: (3 URLs) I didn't realize that Shiri wasn't allowed to participate in the window display at TCS; I was really busy at work during that time, so someone else will have (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) I disagree. NELUG is descriptive of the group: it is a group of LEGO users, based in New England. Furthermore, I think that forcing the current NELUG to give up the name (not that it would be feasible to do so) would serve no useful purpose. (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)  
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) I think you have the opposite, because you don't like the existing system. You think you stand to gain by a change---therefore you are on the other side from the "already vested". Webster's is more precise. I rely on the 1967 edition, which (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) "NELUG" mirrors the many computer users' groups in the world. I don't think any deep thought went into the name, but it has an implication that we are something different from the normal Lego kids' club. "Users' groups" are generally for (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) NELUG can, of course, make any rule they like, and they will. Having said that, I pretty much agree with Shiri. VLC set a lower age limit of 15: below that, kids can visit if supervised by an adult. (And I mean, *supervised*!). I have brought (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) What's ironic is that Shiri did get together with a bunch of people in the Boston area (most of whom I assume are NELUGers). As I recall from watching the planning of the meeting at TCS and retirement to a nearby eatery is that Shiri was one (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) You like taking things out of context. That particular line was a joke, NOT the whole argument. I work nights, so I'm staying up too ! Don't twist things around and try and make it appear that your supporting her or her request, you are (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) My aims too, Frank. By pointing out how you can be more ridiculous than the ridiculous shows that their position can be dismantled. They need to rename the group to include Adult in the title. Bad luck that Shiri doesn't live in a more (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) I'm taking this seriously (and staying up later than I'd like, to discuss it) because I think Shiri's request deserves that. It doesn't sound like it's a joke to her. (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) I can't see how she would ever feel welcome with people who are running this exclusive misnamed organisation. Not a government, how about legislative body. Have a secret ballot (as opposed to secret handshakes). By the way, I have no aim in (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) It may not have been Shiri at all. It was someone under 18 from LUGnet who wished to join. This person asked Eric -- who runs the web site and does some organizational stuff for the group -- and perhaps some other members if we would put it on (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) I (...) In the US (which is what matters here), 18 is the voting age. This is the commonly accepted age of adulthood in the US (though drinking and smoking usually require being 21, and 16 is the age of consent for many things, though kids (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) You could. But 18 is the age where, in the United States, you are legally responsible for yourself. (The age of majority.) Many members of NELUG are concerned about the possible legal implications of accepting minors into our group. You mocked (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) Was that Shiri the potplant or Shiri the mosquito, bit hard for someone who is not present to put something forward. (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)


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