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  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) NELUG can, of course, make any rule they like, and they will. Having said that, I pretty much agree with Shiri. VLC set a lower age limit of 15: below that, kids can visit if supervised by an adult. (And I mean, *supervised*!). I have brought (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) What's ironic is that Shiri did get together with a bunch of people in the Boston area (most of whom I assume are NELUGers). As I recall from watching the planning of the meeting at TCS and retirement to a nearby eatery is that Shiri was one (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) You like taking things out of context. That particular line was a joke, NOT the whole argument. I work nights, so I'm staying up too ! Don't twist things around and try and make it appear that your supporting her or her request, you are (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) My aims too, Frank. By pointing out how you can be more ridiculous than the ridiculous shows that their position can be dismantled. They need to rename the group to include Adult in the title. Bad luck that Shiri doesn't live in a more (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) I'm taking this seriously (and staying up later than I'd like, to discuss it) because I think Shiri's request deserves that. It doesn't sound like it's a joke to her. (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) I can't see how she would ever feel welcome with people who are running this exclusive misnamed organisation. Not a government, how about legislative body. Have a secret ballot (as opposed to secret handshakes). By the way, I have no aim in (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) It may not have been Shiri at all. It was someone under 18 from LUGnet who wished to join. This person asked Eric -- who runs the web site and does some organizational stuff for the group -- and perhaps some other members if we would put it on (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) I (...) In the US (which is what matters here), 18 is the voting age. This is the commonly accepted age of adulthood in the US (though drinking and smoking usually require being 21, and 16 is the age of consent for many things, though kids (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) You could. But 18 is the age where, in the United States, you are legally responsible for yourself. (The age of majority.) Many members of NELUG are concerned about the possible legal implications of accepting minors into our group. You mocked (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) Was that Shiri the potplant or Shiri the mosquito, bit hard for someone who is not present to put something forward. (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) I have to agree with Mathew on that one, and because of that we also need to be carefull about how much we antagonize the current members. What I hope to accomplish by participating in this debate is any of the following: - convince NELUG to (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) Do you really think attempting destructive action will help anybody? I don't think Shiri would exactly feel welcomed into this group if this were the way it happened. We're not a government. Voting isn't a binding sort of legal thing. It's the (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) You could argue for 21(voting), 16(age of consent/age you can marry) or any myriad of ages around the world where people are subject to laws. (...) let's hope they're taking about Lego or maybe it's adult talk ! (...) Hey Frank, why don't we (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) Frank (...) based (...) or (...) Well, since you're getting technical, I'll quote the definition of "vested interest" from the Random House Unabridged Dictionary Second Edition: ] vested interest ] 1. a special interest in an existing system, (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) OK. Normally "vested interest" means you've already invested something, money or effort, or you own the land underneath it. Like the members of a club have. It sounds like you have a "interest". (...) I disagree. (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) I believe it was at Shiri's request. (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) Well, the FAQ is the only "policy" of the group that I see. Other than that, I see a single member of the organization sharing his views, which may or may not be those of the rest of the organization. I did notice that I didn't comment on a (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) It doesn't matter if it's a long time or not - if new things are brought up, it's reasonable to request a second discussion about this. <snip> (...) Of course, silly me... I totally forgot to reply to the points in the FAQ. From the URL posted (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) I did ask for consideration of the FAQ *and* my posts. You're not doing that. (...) I assure you that I wouldn't be going to such lengths to discuss this decision if it were a solitary opinion of my own. I try to be a reasonable person. (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
 
  Re: Age limitations
 
(...) One thing which it may be getting time to do is to remove lugnet.org.us.nelug from the list since it is not as public a forum as lugnet.org.us (and note that NONE of the Lugnet groups are truly public). Frank (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)


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