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| (...) I have to agree with Mathew on that one, and because of that we also need to be carefull about how much we antagonize the current members. What I hope to accomplish by participating in this debate is any of the following: - convince NELUG to (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) Do you really think attempting destructive action will help anybody? I don't think Shiri would exactly feel welcomed into this group if this were the way it happened. We're not a government. Voting isn't a binding sort of legal thing. It's the (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) You could argue for 21(voting), 16(age of consent/age you can marry) or any myriad of ages around the world where people are subject to laws. (...) let's hope they're taking about Lego or maybe it's adult talk ! (...) Hey Frank, why don't we (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) Frank (...) based (...) or (...) Well, since you're getting technical, I'll quote the definition of "vested interest" from the Random House Unabridged Dictionary Second Edition: ] vested interest ] 1. a special interest in an existing system, (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) OK. Normally "vested interest" means you've already invested something, money or effort, or you own the land underneath it. Like the members of a club have. It sounds like you have a "interest". (...) I disagree. (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) I believe it was at Shiri's request. (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) Well, the FAQ is the only "policy" of the group that I see. Other than that, I see a single member of the organization sharing his views, which may or may not be those of the rest of the organization. I did notice that I didn't comment on a (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) It doesn't matter if it's a long time or not - if new things are brought up, it's reasonable to request a second discussion about this. <snip> (...) Of course, silly me... I totally forgot to reply to the points in the FAQ. From the URL posted (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) I did ask for consideration of the FAQ *and* my posts. You're not doing that. (...) I assure you that I wouldn't be going to such lengths to discuss this decision if it were a solitary opinion of my own. I try to be a reasonable person. (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) One thing which it may be getting time to do is to remove lugnet.org.us.nelug from the list since it is not as public a forum as lugnet.org.us (and note that NONE of the Lugnet groups are truly public). Frank (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) It is also unfair to claim to be the New England Lego User Group, when they deny talented people access simply because they are underage. it should be renamed "New England Adult Lego User Group" or something then. (...) Again, see above. The (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) Then I must be mistaken. I based that comment off of some stuff I read today before posting my first reply, set 8 months ago, with a reference to this decision being made 4 months earlier, so roughly a year. (...) Yes, I understand that, and I (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) with (...) I haven't joined, and in all seriousness, probably would not join because of this rule (and note that my main vested interest in a New England/Boston based LUG would be to point my nephew, who is under 18, to). (...) to (...) Well, (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) Now, you're bringing in an even more ludicrous argument, 'we','community', 'fit'. (...) NELUG's (...) So who put it forward ? (...) You mean attack a ridiculous reason for exclusion. If anyone thinks they can form an organisation with (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) Ok, let's consider them then: ] Why do you cater only to adults? ] ] The primary reason is that children already have their own "User Groups" ] called their classmates. On average a child building with LEGO® has a ] large number of friends (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) Well, I think *that's* being a little unfair. Eric and the others did the hard work to get NELUG started, to get the name publicized, shelled out the money for the domain naime, made the web page, etc. I think it's *really* unfair to suggest (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) You know what? LUGNET is a terrific place in the woolly Internet on account of the volume level doesn't get much louder than this. Matt might be the _only_ one sticking up for this position because it's July 3 and everybody is not hooked up to (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) "Then" was less than half a year ago. I'm not sure how that can be construed as a long time. (...) I assure you that I am not just ranting on my own. Remember that LUGnet is not a real-time forum, and that not many NELUG members are likely to (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| I think Shiri is getting a raw deal here, and I think the ONLY way you are going to solve this is by opening up the NELUG group. Let the "Adult" members create a new group. That way you can keep your exclusive "adults" group and make a "public" (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) and (...) That is a good point to think about. I'm not sure I can answer it. I think that should be between Shiri and NELUG. (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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