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  Re: Not inspired by any posting in o.t.fun
 
(...) Umm... because *every* NXT can be equiped with a rechargable battery pack that works like a power port on the 1.0 RCX? So you run a power cable up Spike's... um... abdomen. And if the kid tears Spike apart, just make sure there's a camera (...) (18 years ago, 23-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Not inspired by any posting in o.t.fun
 
(...) I have a lot of stuff on my desk which will eventually get tranfered over to my condo. smart fortwo coupé and crossblade, Briareos fig. from Appleseed, 1:200 scale Airbus A380, ABB IRB 7600, and a 1:87 Vestas V80 turbine. People here know not (...) (18 years ago, 22-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
 
  Re: Not inspired by any posting in o.t.fun
 
(...) ya, tel me again how the NXT is beter than a RCX with built in power port? Chris (18 years ago, 22-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Not inspired by any posting in o.t.fun
 
(...) This would not have the desired effect, even if Dave did borrow Chris' NXT. Dave would still know when a kid had been present, because the batteries in the NXT would be dead. Steve (18 years ago, 22-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Not inspired by any posting in o.t.fun
 
(...) Step 1 - warn co-worker that it would be nice if said kid keeps paws off. Step 2 - set up a NXT with US sensor to watch for an inturder, turning on a small concealed camera to get the evidence if needed. And if that doesn't work... Step 3 - (...) (18 years ago, 22-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Not inspired by any posting in o.t.fun
 
(...) That's the cutest little wedding bonboniere I've ever seen. (...) Unfortunately desks aren't really considered private spaces...and for that matter Lego is considered by people as a toy, not as a something important. Like, if you had a picture (...) (18 years ago, 22-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Not inspired by any posting in o.t.fun
 
So I was at a wedding a while back. The wedding favour to the people assembled to join in the celebration of the couple was a LEGO set. It was a specific set designed by the bride and groom, consisting of 2 2x8 bricks with the names of the couple (...) (18 years ago, 22-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: NXT software -- my view
 
(...) Hey - I'm not saying no-one uses basic. I even use visual basic for building front ends, and GWBasic for my parallel port control projects...(so simple a 10 year old can do it :) I'm just saying that if you bite the bullet and actually TRY to (...) (18 years ago, 22-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: NXT software -- my view
 
(...) (URL) right. Basic is stupid. NO ONE uses basic. its a DUMB language that NO ONE in the YEAR 2007 USE's NOPE.. no one. (sigh) (...) I will have to see this NBC again. maybe I need to TRY once again to attempt this C thing. I with there was a C (...) (18 years ago, 22-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: NXT software -- my view
 
(...) I understand where Chris is coming from....generally Chris doesn't bother spelling or using punctuation. So how can you expect him to type function names, use curly braces and end every function call with a semicolon? Calum (18 years ago, 22-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: NXT software -- my view
 
(...) c'mon Chris - stop crying for a 1963 language and move to a more modern 1972 language (or at least a reasonable facsimile of it) (URL) is a simple sample to drive forward then back. IF you can use mindscript this syntax should be manageable: (...) (18 years ago, 22-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: NXT software -- my view
 
(...) the last software for the RCX was the LEGO SDK 2.5. it had a nice MINDSCRIPT software that was neiter BASIC, not C. SOMEONE at lego seemed to thing there was a need for it. so why not for the NXT? Chris basic? basic? buller? (18 years ago, 20-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: NXT software -- my view
 
(...) DAVE!! save your $$ the NXT just aint all its cracked up to be. $0.02 and a PERSOANL opinion. I mean its ok. im not tossing mine in the garbage. but... well, I've yet to make a WORKING robot. YES, there are a LOT of GOD builders with NICE (...) (18 years ago, 20-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Proposed Assembly Line Project
 
Iain Hendry wrote: We can each make up little fake (...) Riiigggghhhhhttttt and then after snack we can all come to my house and watch wresteling! :) Chris (18 years ago, 20-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Proposed Assembly Line Project
 
(...) YA!! whats up with that!!!?? (...) wow, you guys seem to think these diners are structured or something. How are you proposing (...) I want to fool around with 2 touch sensors face to face. but I dont see why a light beam wouldnt work? Chris (18 years ago, 20-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: We may have to come up with somethign bigger...
 
(...) That was pretty much the exact idea that I presented to Kjeld when I went on the Inside Tour. As Calum said though, reliability would be the downfall-as well as speed. Its too bad bricks are not magnetic, then could use a magnetic crane. I was (...) (18 years ago, 20-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: We may have to come up with somethign bigger...
 
(...) While I'm not part of the rtltoronto clan, from the things I've seen you guys do, there is a lot of talent up there. If you want a suggestion for a 'project', how about the following: A pick and place system that can pull any variety of bricks (...) (18 years ago, 19-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: We may have to come up with somethign bigger...
 
(...) Yes, this is correct. The slowest station on the line will be the limiting factor in the production rate. That said, I don't think we need to "one up" anything, this is purely for fun. We've never done a large group collaborative project other (...) (18 years ago, 19-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
 
  Re: Proposed Assembly Line Project
 
(...) That's what I figured. Not having any of these motors, I cobbled it in LDRAW, and the clips in the model are too low. I figure I'll just make a dolly the same size from bricks and the old train wheels (with the metal axle from the 4.5V days) (...) (18 years ago, 19-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: We may have to come up with somethign bigger...
 
(...) That's right! We have to agree that everyone will try and meet some maximum time. No worm gears allowed! :) (...) Well, we could, but that would get pretty complicated in a hurry, I think. But it's not unlike the Montrac system - there are (...) (18 years ago, 19-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
 
  Re: We may have to come up with somethign bigger...
 
(...) Correct me if I'm wrong, but the cadence will be set by the slowest assembly cell, correct? So if your goal is a a fast cadence, you need *every* cell to meet at least that minimum requirement. Or, since you are using train track, with (...) (18 years ago, 19-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
 
  Re: Proposed Assembly Line Project
 
(...) There are small plastic clips at the base of the train motor; these clasp under the 1x3 inverted slopes to lock them in place (quite ridgidly, I might add). You can see them in the photo; once the RCX dark grey base is loaded on top, it ties (...) (18 years ago, 19-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
 
  Re: Proposed Assembly Line Project
 
(...) So what holds the grey and yellow "bumpers" on? Do they just hook on the motor hooks or are they actually attached somehow? -Rob A> (18 years ago, 19-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: We may have to come up with somethign bigger...
 
(...) When I saw (URL) battery tester> I instantly was curious how they'd be measuring voltage. I choked on my water when I saw what they did; that's truly brilliant. I love it! -Iain PS - Off topic, but I think the other folders in my (URL) (...) (18 years ago, 19-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
 
  Re: We may have to come up with somethign bigger...
 
(...) I'm going to go cry. :( Seriously though, these other assembly projects are incredible, but all have one major flaw (in my eyes): They're slow. I'm expecting if we pull this off, we'll have a cadence of a few seconds per car; maybe 10 or so, (...) (18 years ago, 19-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
 
  Re: We may have to come up with somethign bigger...
 
(...) -Rob A> (18 years ago, 19-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Looking for Train Contact in New York
 
(...) Jim, I posted this to the NELUG list. The general consensus so far is that this is a long distance for us. Our nearest member is over 4 hours from Rochester, and most of us are more than 6 hours away. This means that a temporary display (setup (...) (18 years ago, 19-Jan-07, to lugnet.loc.us.ny, lugnet.trains, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  We may have to come up with somethign bigger...
 
(URL) done. Twice now. Though to be said, not nearly as great as the plan we have, but if this guy can assemble 5 'pieces', then we have got to come up with somethign bigger... Dave K (18 years ago, 19-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Proposed Assembly Line Project
 
(...) This is the idea I had: (URL) I'm not sure how well it works, but it certainly does position the three bottom most pieces. Calum (18 years ago, 19-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
 
  Re: Proposed Assembly Line Project
 
(...) Yupyup, here ya go! (URL) Here are all the parts you need to make one shuttle base. (URL) One assembled base, less RCX. (URL) Tomorrow night I'll finish up the proximity detection (using a light on the back/light sensor on the front). When (...) (18 years ago, 19-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
 
  Re: Proposed Assembly Line Project
 
(...) Iain- Got a picture without the RCX on top? -Rob A> (18 years ago, 18-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Proposed Assembly Line Project
 
(...) Continuing along with that thought, how cool would this be? If I remember right, you showed me that the new train wheels have a technic axle hole in them. If we could get enough of those wheels (Bricklink, maybe?), then we wouldn't have to use (...) (18 years ago, 18-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
 
  Re: Proposed Assembly Line Project
 
(...) (snip) (...) Of course the new version of the motor that comes with the battery train would solve that problem. (...) (18 years ago, 18-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: NXT software -- my view
 
(...) This of course begs the question, what's your idea? (...) Ah, but if the idea is good enough, maybe somebody who's not using theirs* might loan you one, or even sell it cheap. -- Brian Davis *say, because of the current unavalibility of a (...) (18 years ago, 18-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: NXT software -- my view
 
(...) For someone who is interested in making 4x4 RC rock crawling buggies, maybe. For someone who wants to build robots, however... :p As a complete aside from the banter with my fav. american 'bot builder, I am really seriously considering picking (...) (18 years ago, 18-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Proposed Assembly Line Project
 
(...) I was thinking something like this: (URL) open V could be on top of the carrier, and the wedge could be incorporated on everyone's press down mechanism, leading the motion and spring loaded. This would perform the final alignment of the (...) (18 years ago, 18-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: NXT software -- my view
 
(...) What, you don't think the NXT is worth that? Steve (18 years ago, 18-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: NXT software -- my view
 
(...) Why would I want an NXT? I hear you want one from Chris, though. Dave K (18 years ago, 18-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Proposed Assembly Line Project
 
[And those dang Yankees just won't got back south of the border where they belong...] I like the idea of using the touch sensor, however it raise another question (that, not being at a meeting, I don't have an answer to). How are you proposing the (...) (18 years ago, 18-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Proposed Assembly Line Project
 
[pardon the uninvited Yank, but I love the idea and have been lurking. And I'm hard to actually shut up, just ask Steve] (...) One thing you guys could consider is having different folks come up with different building sequences on their own, and (...) (18 years ago, 18-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Proposed Assembly Line Project
 
(...) Waitwaitwait, did they build you at the Honda factory? :) I don't think we should worry about the minifig (but that's moot). (...) Not a dumb question at all - to be honest I hadn't thought about it. Once the "press down" starts happening I (...) (18 years ago, 18-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
 
  Re: Proposed Assembly Line Project
 
(...) There's a lot of prework for organizing: The carrier and the assembly pallet at minimum. Then deciding the building sequence. Thankfully the building sequence is pretty top to bottom. One item (the minifigure) needs to assembled before his (...) (18 years ago, 18-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
 
  Re: NXT software -- my view
 
(...) Well, if you look at pricing retail, yes. I personally think the NXT is worth much more than the RCX functionally too. We're just not used to it yet. Calum (18 years ago, 18-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Proposed Assembly Line Project
 
(...) Bingo. :) I have a ton of old 4.5 V track I can loan out if people want to do it that way, but the new 9V track looks a lot nicer (there are twice as many cross ties on the 9V track than the old 4.5V). For mocking things up at home you could (...) (18 years ago, 17-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: NXT software -- my view
 
(...) Do you really want more to just collect dust? (18 years ago, 17-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Proposed Assembly Line Project
 
(...) WOW, if only IAIN would update or modify his OTHER brickshelf accounts so that they could be modified for PUBLIC viewing. C (18 years ago, 17-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Proposed Assembly Line Project
 
(...) (snip) (...) Why the non electric stuff... Oh wait. i get it... if the RCX is used to feed power to the train wheels, then that same power is fed to the TRACK which would power the OTHER palets waiting or working. Duh. going back to whispering (...) (18 years ago, 17-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: NXT software -- my view
 
(...) Ummmm Dave, Can i speak to you for a second.... ummm (whisper whisper) so thats why.... (whisper whisper) and while this may seem (whisper whisper) I just feel that (whisper whisper) so, that about means (whisper whisper) Chris (18 years ago, 17-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: NXT software -- my view
 
(...) What kind if NXT? a pre production model or a MISB? what kind of RCX? (18 years ago, 17-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: NXT software -- my view
 
(...) Better idea. I'll give you 1 NXT, you give me 3 RCXs. Steve (18 years ago, 17-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: NXT software -- my view
 
(...) At least!! maybe 4!!! You bring 4 RCX's to the table, and I'll give you an NXT! Fair trade!! Dave K (18 years ago, 17-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: NXT software -- my view
 
(...) So, you think those NXTs are worth THREE TIMES what the old RCXs are worth? I can see that. Steve (18 years ago, 17-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: NXT software -- my view
 
In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, David Koudys wrote: <snip> (...) Oh, and they can't be the non AC adaptor ones, either--If I wanted that type of limitaiton, I might as well get an NXT... ;) Dave K (18 years ago, 17-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: NXT software -- my view
 
(...) I'm Chris's broker--if you want 1 of his NXT's, you ship me 3 RCX's. They'll get to Chris... Honest! Dave K (18 years ago, 17-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: NXT software -- my view
 
(...) I think you math is messed up. You're saying the RCX is worth more than an NXT. And, you're saying 3 RCXs=1 NXT. That would seem to suggest 1 RCX = 1/3 NXT. So, which is it? Steve (18 years ago, 17-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: NXT software -- my view
 
In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Steve Hassenplug wrote: <snip> (...) I personally believe that the RCX will 'win out' over the NXT for 'bot building in the long run, so the RCX is worth more... So at least a 3 for 1 trade--3 RCX's for 1 NXT. At least, (...) (18 years ago, 17-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Proposed Assembly Line Project
 
(...) Well, I sort of imagined the layout of the entire thing would be more-or-less something like this: (URL) ...Where there's an initial "buffer" of free pallets, waiting to enter the system, and then you have them advancing into one of several (...) (18 years ago, 17-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
 
  Re: NXT software -- my view
 
(...) I'd put it on the chart, if someone made it. I'm sure someone would make it, if there was a reason. (...) I could use a few more NXTs. Maybe we should trade. Steve (18 years ago, 17-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Proposed Assembly Line Project
 
(...) That is so cool. I want one for my basement just so I can watch the little cars go around. (...) Actually I think that's a great set to try and build. It has some challenging pieces as well as some that should be relatively straight forward. (...) (18 years ago, 17-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: NXT software -- my view
 
(...) Because BASIC doesn't make any sense in 2007...we have GUI environments that are more interesting and easier to learn for children...and for adults, people prefer Java or C based languages. There's a very small section of the population who (...) (18 years ago, 17-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Proposed Assembly Line Project
 
(...) I like this idea. Iain what are your thoughts on working it into a "group" build. we all agree on the end product. we assign who does what... and then we go and rent a library for the day and bring our parts and work. anyone? anyone? Chris (18 years ago, 17-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  NXT software -- my view
 
Wow, if you dare venture out of the nice safe place that is rtlToronto, you will see that the NXT guys are going at it. wow. my solution. NXT basic! notice how NO ONES chart has NXT basic. why is that? Dave, your a software guy... whip that up will (...) (18 years ago, 17-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Any 4.5/12 volt train enthusiast interested in original 'rubbers'
 
(...) No, just Canadian... :) Dave K (18 years ago, 17-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
 
  Re: Any 4.5/12 volt train enthusiast interested in original 'rubbers'
 
(...) Giving away free rubbers? What are you-- a public school? JOHN (18 years ago, 17-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
 
  Re: Proposed Assembly Line Project
 
(...) We're glad to have you back online! This is the set we were talking about: (URL) (18 years ago, 17-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
 
  Proposed Assembly Line Project
 
Hey everyone! I've been sort of "out of it" for quite a while. I came to the dinner last Friday, it was great to see everyone again! Here's a link to the video from Montech of their Montrac system I was talking about. It's pretty self-explanatory. (...) (18 years ago, 17-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
 
  Man of 101 voices
 
don't know how 'safe for work' the rest of the site is, but this video I found amusing-- (URL) of course, if you sit thru it all, you'll see the obligatory throw out to HR. Dave K -'cause it's 'Dot Commm...mmm......' (18 years ago, 16-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Any 4.5/12 volt train enthusiast interested in original 'rubbers'
 
That sounded dirty... Anyway, in the realm of 'Dave becomes a Collector', I recently won an eBay purchase-- (URL) told it's a train accessory kit from around '72. I bid on the auction for the box, basically, so there's some train bits 'n pieces that (...) (18 years ago, 16-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  {RTL} = x + 1
 
Some ideas were bantered around. Anyone have any idea as to when a nice day would be to gather at the new library to try our BUILD-A-THON? I think some time in Feb. the Sat's are 10, 17, and 24. if you go with 10. you BETTER not have a S/O I think (...) (18 years ago, 15-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: For a good home...
 
(...) At last night's dinner DaveK said he'd take it, but I have this suspicion Sandy would probably hate me forever if he actually took it. I need the desk space for a second matching Dell 2001fp. I guess this is my workout for this week...taking (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: For a good home...
 
There is always the option of turning it into a fish tank. Probably get more for it :) And it would become a collectible... (URL) A> (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: For a good home...
 
(...) ...or the trash if no one claims it. If that, then first strip the copper wires out of it, which you can sell to make $$ to spend on LEGO, since the copper market's really up there. Just be careful of zapification. (18 years ago, 13-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  For a good home...
 
...one IBM 6091-019 workstation monitor. 19" of .28 dp IBM AIX workstation goodness. A brute of a giant monitor. Slightly dim, but relatively still sharp at 1024x768. Perfect for a hackin' Linux box. Free to a good home...or the trash if no one (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  X-Mods on sale at Radio Shack
 
I'm not into them, nor do I know anything about them, but I remember a discussion a long while back about these 'X-Mod' thingies--glorified 'Snap-Together' motorized cars and such. ANyway, Radio Shack is (again) going out of business here in Canada (...) (18 years ago, 12-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: The difference between hobbyists and collectors...
 
(...) Note: as "a big fancy Dr. type smart guy", I can truely state that you should never, NEVER, confuse an advanced degree with intelligence. The two do not neccessarily correlate. Trust me on this, I have an advanced degree. (...) Huh. I never (...) (18 years ago, 12-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: The difference between hobbyists and collectors...
 
(...) ya know... for a big fancy Dr. type smart guy.. you sure SUCK at figureing out who wrote what. it was JANEY who wants to be a monkey. i dont care for the things ever since the "incient" from a summer working as a kangaroo/chimp pusher. lets (...) (18 years ago, 12-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  [rtlToronto] January Monthly Dinner
 
Friday, January 12th, 2007. 7PM Swiss Chalet 5487 Dundas Street West Toronto, Ontario Hey folks, Just a reminder for tonight's regular monthly get together. Calum (18 years ago, 12-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: The difference between hobbyists and collectors...
 
(...) Funny; when I first read that, I read 'all I ever wanted growing up was TO BE a pet monkey". I like my version better... it explains so much more about Chris :-). (18 years ago, 11-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Newfound growth or splintering the existing base?
 
(...) I see what you mean by it, although I don't agree. By that line of thinking, BrickFest 2006 (held in a different venue, organized by different people, and more of an expo than a convention) wasn't an "original" BrickFest either. So there (...) (18 years ago, 11-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Newfound growth or splintering the existing base?
 
(...) Sorry Kelly, but there is not going to be a BrickFest 2007. BrickFest PDX is not a replacement to the original Washington D.C. version. In 7 consecutive years of having a AFOL convention in the Metropolitan D.C. area, a convention that (...) (18 years ago, 11-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: The difference between hobbyists and collectors...
 
(...) LOL! "played"??? Nice try on a diversion tactic there, but I do believe in fair play. Which normally includes not calling someone out on something they never claimed in the first place. Here is a novel idea, try disputing the facts. Wink. (...) (18 years ago, 11-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: The difference between hobbyists and collectors...
 
(...) ya know... this ain't the FIRST time you played the oh-so-sweet, and innocent. we all know the truth. I have the REAL truth on my side. I am a patient man. I will be vindicated! Chris (18 years ago, 11-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Newfound growth or splintering the existing base?
 
(...) One correction: BrickFest 2007 was not cancelled, it's being held in Portland on March 30 - April 1, 2007. Hope you can attend. - Kelly (18 years ago, 10-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Newfound growth or splintering the existing base?
 
(...) Calum, I think the base needs to expand, not only to support the events and grow them, but to maintain the community. If I had a 2x4 brick for everyone that said on the LUGNET newsgroups that they were going to stop buying LEGO bricks or stop (...) (18 years ago, 10-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: The difference between hobbyists and collectors...
 
(...) LOL, ok, tell me I'm not the only one that laughed at the idea of Chris being in the closet... about ANYTHING! Janey "I have to get off these cold meds! Red Brick" (18 years ago, 10-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: The difference between hobbyists and collectors...
 
In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, C. L. GunningCook wrote: <snip> (...) Yo go, girl! We all know that Chris is a closet artsy fartsy person... Dave K -well, maybe just the second part of that... (18 years ago, 10-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: The difference between hobbyists and collectors...
 
(...) Ring, ring... "Hello???" "Hi, this is Kettle calling ... I have a message for Mr. Magno, yes, just one word, BLACK!" For the general viewing audience... let me let you in on a little known tidbits of FACTS from the "Book of Magno Trivia"... (...) (18 years ago, 10-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
 
  Re: My first train7 project
 
(...) Mario DeFacendis is my friend and sometimes rtlToronto person. Together we entered rtl10 Project X and tried to enter rtl15 Deep Yellow. Sometimes you'll see him post in this NG or appear at an rtlToronto event. The LED's are literally garden (...) (18 years ago, 9-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
 
  Re: My first train7 project
 
(...) This is just gorgeous. Practical lighting is what LEGO displays are really missing. Who is this Mario guy, and how can I get some of those LEDs? Aaron (18 years ago, 9-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, FTX)
 
  Re: Falkirk Wheel
 
(...) That seems to be a roundabout way of doing what they've been doing in Peterborough for 100+ years-- (URL) course, to get this thing to work on the energy of 8 kettles, you close the gates manually and bail out a little water in the bottom (...) (18 years ago, 9-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Hey Iian, These are your little duckies right??
 
(...) Iain's stuff always impresses. He builds such clever stuff. But to watch him go through it is really a treat: Iain intrinsically knows the "feel" of pieces--eg, what will stick, just how much bracing something needs, that sort of thing. It (...) (18 years ago, 9-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Falkirk Wheel
 
(URL) this is what you need in the layout...not a piddly little boat lock :) And the fact that it only uses 1.5kWh of power (like boiling 8 kettles) to lift a boat is way cool. I'd plan a trip to Scotland just to see this bad boy... -Rob A> (18 years ago, 9-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: The difference between hobbyists and collectors...
 
(...) I disagree. If Chris does a good job of estimating the final purchase price, good for him. He'll save people like you from wasting your time bidding on it, while the price rises from $20 to $100. I don't think it's gouging, if it's a luxury (...) (18 years ago, 9-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: Hey Iian, These are your little duckies right??
 
And actually, linking back and browsing through Ian's YouTube account was interesting. I'd not seen the pole balancer, and I love the "Toppler" as well. Nifty. (18 years ago, 9-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: The difference between hobbyists and collectors...
 
(...) I'm not sure I followed you there-- you said you think the set is worth more than just the pieces... but... your argument is that a set should just be sold at the value of the pieces (plus the price of the box and the instructions if (...) (18 years ago, 9-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: The difference between hobbyists and collectors...
 
In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, David Koudys wrote (though not in this order, admitedly): (...) Agreed. I don't see a logical, rational reason for such collecting/hoarding etc. That would probably be why you and I are not "collectors". I've only bought (...) (18 years ago, 9-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Hey Iian, These are your little duckies right??
 
(URL) love it when someones sends me a link to something done by an rtl member.. Jeff VW (18 years ago, 9-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: The difference between hobbyists and collectors...
 
(...) Agreed-if Chris has, hypothetically, some Technic subs sitting in his basement that he plans on selling in some years time for some profit--no issues from me. As stated before, that's not the issue--it's the degree of profit. If Chris puts up (...) (18 years ago, 9-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: The difference between hobbyists and collectors...
 
(...) I value the LEGO parts as more than the sets they comes in. That's why I build with LEGO bricks--if I didn't care about the parts, then I certainly would save lots of money by not buying the sets. And again, the difference between the parts I (...) (18 years ago, 9-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
 
  Re: The difference between hobbyists and collectors...
 
(...) agreed--it is subjective, but again, all of this was my opinion. But just as we can point and laugh about how the weatherman has difficulty predicting the weather conditions 2 weeks out, we can't then assume that the weatherman will be wrong (...) (18 years ago, 9-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)


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