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Re: Now the stakes are higher....
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Date: 
Thu, 6 Mar 2003 19:11:48 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.geek, David Eaton writes:

<snip>

Proof #5 (statistics. Again):

Have him try it. Probably the safest way being 50+ times.

DaveE

That's perfect!  I owe you a lunch!

Now whetehr or not my co-worker succumbs to 'outside sources' as valid enuf
to change his position remains to be seen

I'm trying to explain his fallacy and I think I know where it lies now--

His solution:

r1 r2
r1 b
r1 w
r2 b
r2 w
b w

He states that position doesn't matter, but by his very layout of the
columns presupposes that it does--column 2 is not the same as column 1--if
column 2 is the one we expose, then we're missing possibilities--he has to
either add all the possibilities (which you did wonderfully) or he has to say:

r r
r b
r w
b w

are the unique possibilities, and we're still left with 1 in 3

Love it--thanks!

Dave K



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  Re: Now the stakes are higher....
 
(...) Effectively, he's right but he's not giving things the probability they're due. In his solution, the (r1 r2) choice is GUARANTEED that no matter which one you reveal (r1 or r2), the one revealed will be red. However, with, say, (r1 b), there's (...) (22 years ago, 6-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)

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(...) HA! Congrats on winning 100 bucks :) (...) Proof number one: (pure stats) #!/usr/bin/perl for(1..1000) { @marbles = ("r","r","b","w"); $pick = ''; for(1..2) { $n = int rand(@marbles); $pick .= $marbles[$n]; splice @marbles,$n,1; } $tot++; (...) (22 years ago, 6-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)

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