To LUGNET HomepageTo LUGNET News HomepageTo LUGNET Guide Homepage
 Help on Searching
 
Post new message to lugnet.off-topic.debateOpen lugnet.off-topic.debate in your NNTP NewsreaderTo LUGNET News Traffic PageSign In (Members)
 Off-Topic / Debate / 8396
8395  |  8397
Subject: 
Re: What Would It Take? (was:Re: Problems with Christianity)
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Sun, 24 Dec 2000 19:41:40 GMT
Viewed: 
1234 times
  
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
John Neal wrote:

David Eaton wrote:

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
A question (which I think I posed to TomS whose answer I can't seem to find
in the slew) I would like any atheist or agnostic to discuss would be: what
would it take for you to believe that God exists?  The reason I ask is
because, after having heard all of the arguments presented here, I am left
with the impression that there is *nothing* that could make one believe in
God.  Is that a fair assessment?

Sadly, I fear the answer is just about yes, going by what I think you define
as God.

But really what we've got to do is define 'God' first, because I may be
wrong. In fact, depending on what you define as 'God', I may in fact already
believe in His existence. Perhaps you could expound?

I would simply define God as a single Entity which created the universe.  We
all instinctively long to be united with that Entity.

Do we?  What makes you think this?

I think science/society seeks to understand "creation". I don't think being
united with creation is really a global aim. That said, could it not be
argued that we are part of creation?

Scott A



Message has 1 Reply:
  Re: What Would It Take? (was:Re: Problems with Christianity)
 
(...) There's merit in that argument. Certainly we are "part of the universe" since we reside in it, observe it, are affected by it, and effect things within it. The problem is that "creation" carries a connotation of it being an act of volition. (...) (24 years ago, 24-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Message is in Reply To:
  Re: What Would It Take? (was:Re: Problems with Christianity)
 
(...) Do we? What makes you think this? (...) Skepticism is GOOD. However, I don't think cynicism is good ;-) -- | Tom Stangl, Technical Support Netscape Communications Corp | Please do not associate my personal views with my employer (24 years ago, 24-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

298 Messages in This Thread:
(Inline display suppressed due to large size. Click Dots below to view.)
Entire Thread on One Page:
Nested:  All | Brief | Compact | Dots
Linear:  All | Brief | Compact

This Message and its Replies on One Page:
Nested:  All | Brief | Compact | Dots
Linear:  All | Brief | Compact
    

Custom Search

©2005 LUGNET. All rights reserved. - hosted by steinbruch.info GbR