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Re: Religion and Science
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Tue, 5 Dec 2000 16:52:49 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
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> Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
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> > Indeed, if you could prove God exists, there wouldn't be a need for "faith".
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> And yet, Bruce, if I said to you "there is a God who exists as revealed by Jesus of
> Nazareth", what would be your first response? Maybe you'd say, "that's nice for
> you, now run along and play" (oops, that's what *Lar* would say). But what if I
> pressed and said,"No really, it's true!" Your next thought would be that you would
> want *proof*. Is that inconsistent to expect? Or maybe you'd want evidence. What
> amount of evidence would convince you? Hypothetically speaking, what *would* it
> take to convince you as a skeptic?
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> -John
I'd ask what's more important, the message or the messanger? Is it the
message that Jesus of Nazereth brought that is important, or who you claim
him to be? Is the message only of importance because of who it is from, or
because there is something inherent in it that is valuable?
You walk up to me and say the above (God as revealed by Christ), but a Hindu
walks up at the same time and says, no, I should be listening to Krishna, an
avatar of God. How do I choose? How do I *know*? Then, just to confuse
things, a muslim walks up and says Jesus was a prophet of God (not an
avatar), but the prophet I *really* should be listening to is Mohamad.
There is a God, but as revealed by Mohamad, not Jesus.
If you cannot give me *proof* of the messanger, what do I have to judge but
the message? What is left but faith that the message and the messenger are
true? If one religion was provable, why are there so many?
And I never said I was a skeptic. :-)
Bruce
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| (...) Yes;-) The message is most important, because it finally reveals God's true nature. And although the following may sound circular, I think it makes sense. What makes Jesus so special and that He alone has the final revelation from God? The (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) And yet, Bruce, if I said to you "there is a God who exists as revealed by Jesus of Nazareth", what would be your first response? Maybe you'd say, "that's nice for you, now run along and play" (oops, that's what *Lar* would say). But what if (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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