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Re: Critical Thinking
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Mon, 4 Dec 2000 19:43:59 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Steve Thomas writes:
> Mr. Pieniazek:
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> I tend to side with Mr. Irvine on this one, and I believe (although I'm not
> sure) that you are missing his point.
I might well be. In fact he well may be right that if this is a claim, that
it's subject to its own test, and may well fail it.
But I'm not sure that I agree that this particular yardstick has to be able
to measure itself. That, I think, may be a more fruitful area for
investigation. Axioms, after all, don't have to prove themselves. But are
these axioms, meta information about the system of critical thinking and
thus "exempt", or merely observations that are themselves part of the system
and thus subject?
Saying that something is a claim, meaningful or otherwise, didn't get us
anywhere in analysing. What if we go back to the nature of what is being
claimed?
++Lar
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| (...) able (...) system (...) Even "meta-information" must be logically consistent. The trick is that most axioms probably do not refer to themselves, but if they do (as the statement in question appears to fall within its own scope), they must pass (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Critical Thinking
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| Mr. Pieniazek: (...) true (...) When Mr. Irvine challenged the author's statement as being (apparently) self-defeating, you responded with: (...) I (...) The question, with this in mind, can be put as follows: Is the author's statement -- "[E]very (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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