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Re: Abortion, consistent with the LP stance? (Re: From Harry Browne
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Sun, 12 Nov 2000 15:38:48 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Todd Lehman writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John DiRienzo writes:
> > [...]
> > A human being at any stage of its development is still a human being. It
> > is a human, always, until death. This supposes that you accept that human
> > life begins at conception. One doesn't begin as one thing and turn into
> > something else - it is constantly human.
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> Humans generally don't, but caterpillars and butterflies do.
The organism stays the same species the whole time just like the human does.
And do you think that the betterfly really changes more than the human does?
I'd say less. There is a little wormy thing with legs and then it grows some
wings and reproductive organs. Big deal. Compare that to the little wormy
thing that is grown in a woman's belly and then transforms into a fully
functional human.
> There is no one
> particular moment that a caterpillar becomes a butterfly; the transformation
> happens gradually.
> [snip]Birth itself is pretty quick -- typically
> much quicker than death, but of course not instant. There are moments in
> time when you are neither "not born" nor "born" -- you're in-between.
Heck, that's even true for conception. The sperm finds the egg and tries to
burrow in. While burrowing, conception hasn't yet happened. Then it gets in
and the genes are figuring out how to mesh up and form DNA. That all takes
time. Once that's all done, it starts replicating. Certainly by then,
conception has happened, but where in between do you place it?
> If the government wants to stick its nose in the abortion issue, it should
> prosecute people in a criminal trial after the fact, based on relevant facts,
> rather than introducing legislation to try to prevent it in the first place.
I agreed with this in an earlier note, but I'm questioning it now. Why do you
think that? The standard model of law enforcement is to not prevent crimes,
only to respond to them, but that seems like a broken paradigm.
Chris
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