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    Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal? —Jeremy H. Sproat
   (...) Unless, of course, widespread plague causes civilization to break down. Then, the ones who listen to the education *and* successfully dodge the bullets will survive. Witness what happened to the Jews during the Black Plague. Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 9-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal? —Christopher L. Weeks
     (...) Are you suggesting this as a real possibility, or as a logical argument to Larry's point? Chris (25 years ago, 9-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal? —Jeremy H. Sproat
     (...) Then, (...) will (...) A logical argument to Larry's point. Plagues have a habit of overthrowing society. It's also a real possibility, of course, though not necessarily a probable one. Certainly not probable on a large enough scale to pose a (...) (25 years ago, 9-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal? —Jeff Stembel
     (...) The destablization of countries not a threat to US National Security? The loss of a quarter of a country's workforce would destroy its economy. This could damage the economy of neighboring countries or those that back them financially. With (...) (25 years ago, 9-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal? —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) No. Not in the general case it isn't. Sorry about that. ++Lar (25 years ago, 9-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal? —Jeff Stembel
     (...) Explain please. Jeff (25 years ago, 9-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal? —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) We're not the worlds policeman. While the destabilization of, for example, Liberia, may be quite saddening to watch, it's not going to have a long term large impact on us. There is nothing that Liberia has that is a vital interest to us. The (...) (25 years ago, 9-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal? —Jeff Stembel
     (...) Actually, it does: Our Fellow Man. (...) Actually, it would probably heavily damage our economy. (...) While true, it is rather hard to say just what would happen when a country destabilized. Therefore, it is better to be safe than sorry. (...) (25 years ago, 9-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal? —Christopher L. Weeks
     (...) I don't think that counts. If the government believed that 'our fellow man' was a vital interest, things would be very different. Since they aren't, then it must not be so. (...) Nah. I'm no economist, but I bet we'd go on fine after hitting (...) (25 years ago, 9-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal? —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) Hypothetically speaking, of course. And hypothetically, I agree. In the specific case, I disagree. the virus is too hard to transmit for it to become a plague. I wouldn't even call it an epidemic, much less a pandemic. Now, if the virus (...) (25 years ago, 9-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal? —Christopher Tracey
   (...) Ok, the virus does mutate. the mutation rate for the genes that code for the protein coat is about 15%/8 years. Compare this to the divergence rate in almost any gene between a person and a chimpanzee which is about 2%/several million years. (...) (25 years ago, 9-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal? —Christopher L. Weeks
   (...) This is a good point that hasn't been discussed much here. The likelihood of progress should go into the cost-benefit analysis. OTOH, if the techniques developped for Polio worked for HIV, it'd be under control by now, right? Since that's not (...) (25 years ago, 10-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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