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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mike Stanley writes:
Sorry If I offended you!
I was wrong (Hangs head in shame).
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> There's no way to prove that Joe Blow, who at some point in the future
> comes up with say a custom model of a large "beachfront" house, got
> the idea to produce it from this thread, and specifically from the
> author in question.
Accepted.
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> But even if he did _see_ the post and it's many COOL IDEAS (don't want
> to suggest that they aren't, because many of them are) so many of them
> have been suggested BEFORE by _other people_, that to say "you can
> only use the ideas in this post for non-commercial purposes" is kinda
> silly. If Joe Blow came up with a cool beachfront house or a really
> cool Roman Villa and wanted to produce copies of it for sale to others
> there's really nothing that anyone who had simply thrown out the idea
> "hey, this would be cool" would be able to do to collect on that or
> stop it, even if they went to the trouble (albeit misguided) to
> specify the ideas were only meant for such and such purposes, etc.
Accepted. But some fan websites do state that thier are not for commerical use.
> This whole issue probably is slanted more towards patent and copyright
> stuff than I care for, especially since IANAL, but my basic point was
> that very few, if any, of the ideas put forth in that message were
> "original" (as in, hadn't ever been posted before by anyone else) that
> claiming some sort of control over them is pointless.
Accepted. - I had intened to set up a website for unoffical concepts and
themes. That'll have to wait until the air clears.
> Now if the author actually produced a beachfront cabana or something,
> drew up instructions for it, something, and posted that, sure, those
> would be copyrighted works worthy of protection. But suggesting
> something like, "hey, a Wild West train would be a good idea - but
> only TLG can produce it commercially not clone brands and members of
> LUGNET can only produce it non-commercially" is, sorry to say,
> foolish.
Why I stated non-commerical use was because I didn't wont some mad legal
idiot in the states breathing down my neck. The clone-brands issue had
serious consequences.
What I was actually working on was some concept drawings. IANAL ethier so I
might be wrong but I think these can be copyright, as for LUGNET Postings I
re-read the Terms of Use, Items posted here HAVE to be freely distributable.
I accept you point whole-heartdly!
It therfore be fair to say that entire section, is invalid
> And yeah, I'm very familiar with citing other sources, etc, especially
> in the academic world. I spent far too many years working on my
> degree in the academic world to miss that, and I continue to work
> _for_ the academic world. But posting something here isn't quite the
> same as giving a paper at a conference of my academic peers. :)
Accepted, but at least it give some other fans somewhere else to look?
Again I apolgise , ( I went too far!)
Alex
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| (...) You didn't. Takes a LOT to offend me. :) (...) No need for shame either. (...) Right, and if they've truly come up with something original - like the pics of his awesome Castle Ed Boxer shows on his site, that makes sense. (...) Yup, any (...) (25 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) No. There's no way to prove that Joe Blow, who at some point in the future comes up with say a custom model of a large "beachfront" house, got the idea to produce it from this thread, and specifically from the author in question. But even if (...) (25 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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