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Re: Frog
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lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:27:57 GMT
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In lugnet.general Jesse Long wrote:


Flies are not advanced enough to suffer.  At the very least you need pain
receptors to suffer, and flies don't have those.  Their nerves are limited
to "this leg works" messages.

OK, good to know. Learn something every day, these groups are great for
that.

Nevertheless I myself try not to do things that may appear to be cruel,
even if they're not, because I don't want to remember what sorts of
animals are capable of suffering or not. I also think that there is a
'desensitizing pathways' effect that may kick in.

I consider myself superior to flies, just as I do to cows. There are
humans, and there are animals, and there IS a difference.  So I have no
qualms about killing a fly because it's trying to bite me, or killing a
cow because I need to eat. I just balk at doing it in a way that is not
the kindest, gentlest way possible.

Followups to o-t.debate, please.

++Lar



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  Re: Frog
 
On Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:27:57 GMT, Larry Pieniazek uttered the following profundities... (...) You should eat meat the Arab way, rather, buy Halal meat. One of the things decreed by Mohammed was that the animal killed for consumption should die in the (...) (26 years ago, 4-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Frog
 
(...) I've always wondered about this. I have some questions WRT this stance. What does superior mean? Is it based on cognitive-emotional capacity? Frankly, using what I guess to be the answer, I consider myself superior to most of humanity, but I (...) (26 years ago, 8-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Frog
 
Larry Pieniazek wrote in message <36B86106.6EDF913F@v...er.net>... (...) As soon as they pass a law about it. Flies are not advanced enough to suffer. At the very least you need pain receptors to suffer, and flies don't have those. Their nerves are (...) (26 years ago, 3-Feb-99, to lugnet.general)

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