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Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]
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Sat, 8 Jan 2000 07:05:18 GMT
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Matthew Miller wrote:
> 
> Frank Filz <ffilz@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > So just because your dad happened to build a house somewhere, you think the
> > whole world should bow down and provide all the "niceties" of life,
> > regarless of whether the location your dad built his house on was a sensible
> > location?
> 
> It's a very sensible location. It's land that has been in the family for a
> while and has unmeasurably high personal value. In fact, there are lots of
> equally valuable connections to places and people in the surrounding
> community, despite the "nonsensibility" of a slight majority of the
> neighbors.
> 
> But like I said, there are many people with even deeper (moral, social,
> financial, historical) attachments to their location than those my family
> has. Are they just being "silly"?

Not at all. Not all value can be as easily judged as the operating
budget of a library. But if your property has immeasurable value, that's
one thing. At some point, if the absence of a library were bugging you
out, you'd have to measure the value of staying in a community you have
strong ties to but that has chosen not to have a library against moving.

I suspect you'd be able to make the trade off.

> 
> > If they can build it for a cost which is worthwhile to them, they will
> > build it. If it costs more than it is worth to them, then it's cost is more
> > than it's worth to them. Perhaps
> 
> What if it costs more than they _have_?

Then they can't have it.

I personally would like, very very much, to own a space shuttle. I think
it would be really neat and it would actualise my potential and it would
be more educational than any other thing I could possibly own. But I am
18 billion short. There are no free goods.

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  Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]
 
(...) [snip] (...) But the point to which I'm replying is that libraries _would_ get built! (...) Universal access to libraries is something that can obviously benefit society. As I've seen you say: take that as a given for this argument. Again, the (...) (27 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]
 
(...) Fair enough, but I still disagree :) I would say that a worthy artist is one who produces worthy art. I would also suggest that the requirement of any form of suffering or willingness to suffer, on behalf of the artist, is an intellectual one (...) (27 years ago, 7-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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