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Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
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Fri, 31 Dec 1999 14:09:23 GMT
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On Fri, 31 Dec 1999 07:34:34 GMT, Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net>
wrote:
> 1. People aren't as lazy(1) as you think. Most people are industrious
> and hard working, even in this screwed up society of today. It's only in
> Legoland where the majority of buildings are police stations and rescue
> bases. The vast majority of us real-figs work our tails off and look at
> all we've produced! This has been a grand century, despite its problems.
Industrious in the area of work is something completely different from
lazy in other areas. You know that.
[move stuff around a bit]
> 3. The level that naysayers feel is required of virtue X for libertopia
> to work is way higher than what X is under our analysis, where X can be
> "niceness", "honesty", "industriousness" or any of several other nice to
> have virtues...
Exactly. Now replace "feel" with "under their analysis", _or_ replace
"under our analysis" with "we feel".
> 2. People are lazy because they are *enabled* to be lazy. There weren't
> very many lazy people on the american frontier 100 years ago. Set
> society up to ensure people suffer the consequences of their actions and
> you'll soon stop complaining about how lazy everyone is. It'll take time
> to shake off 60+ years of bad habits but it's doable. We have to break
> the "entitlement mentality". People aren't entitled to anything, really,
> other than rights protection.
> 4. Finally, constructive laziness as a vice is way overrated. It's
> actually a virtue. We have constructively lazy people to thank for just
> about every labor saving device ever devised. Edison was one of the
> laziest people to ever walk the face of the earth. Thank goodness. Each
> and every productivity improvement is basically an instant creation of
> wealth, because now we can spend less time doing what we have to and
> more on what we want to... I remain boggled that I had to work only
> about an hour to earn enough to buy 3 (!!) portable CD players.
You're contradicting yourself with these two.
One of the reasons that the western world as a whole has such a high
productivity is exactly that we don't need to concern ourselves daily
with growing enough food for ourselves, wondering about what happens
if we get sick for a few days, etcetera etcetera.
> (ok, so I was too lazy to go back and fix the intro from 3 to 4)
No comment.
Jasper
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