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In lugnet.admin.general, Chris Phillips wrote:
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In lugnet.admin.general, Ross Crawford wrote:
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In lugnet.admin.general, Chris Phillips wrote:
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Ross, you seen bothered that some members have
“shadow” admin ability without being explicitly named on the admin page.
Does this bother you because you expect accountability from these people?
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No, it bothers me because (as happened in this case) an email to the Lugnet
admins does not reach ALL Lugnet admins, and one of the admins that was “out
of the loop” reverted my changes.
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It seems that NONE of the admins received your e-mail, because the implication
I’ve been reading is that NONE of them would have told you to go ahead.
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Well, that’s even worse, and should be fixed.
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But the
point is, you shouldn’t need the admins to tell you when you are crossing that
line, and if you can’t understand that, then you shouldn’t be a curator.
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No, that’s a different point entirely.
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While not a problem in this case, I can see a
potential for confusion and/or conflict in the future.
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“Not a problem in this case?” Ha!
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I don’t think anyone had a problem with Dave reverting the pics, do you?
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The non-Sophie pics were in place more than 48 hours before Bob posted about
them. My email is clearly linked on the Technic sidebar. Not one person
emailed me to request that I change the pics back, or even investigate what
happened.
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Just because nobody noticed the prank until Bob went trolling
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At least one person did, and
preferred to email the admins directly rather than the curator.
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does not change
the facts of what you did.
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Never said it did.
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Do you at this point see why your stunt set off a
160+ message debate?
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No, Bob’s post started a 160+ message debate. If Bob had chosen to email me
instead, or even if Eric had CCed me on his email, the pics would have been
reverted, and nobody else would have noticed.
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Would you do it again? Can you acknowledge that you made a mistake?
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The pics were changed to make a point. In the last 2 weeks, Eric has served at
least 2 DMCA notifications (probably more) to ISPs about people using his
copyrighted work on their sites. He seems to prefer to go directly to the legal
threats, rather than asking nicely. I didn’t think he would do that regarding
the images on the Technic sidebar, but you can never be sure with Eric. So I
removed them. As it was only to make a point, I had resolved to put them back in
a few days, but unfortunately Bob pointed them out before I was able to,
sparking this thread.
No, it is unlikely I would ever do it again.
ROSCO
(FUT: .debate because the admins don’t need this cluttering up their group)
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| (...) A point which is still apparently lost on you? (...) So you sent e-mail to the admins, and then in the absence of a response you assumed that you had administrative approval to alter somebody else's content? No problem. Sure. (...) Under the (...) (18 years ago, 19-Feb-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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| (...) So it's OK for you to abuse administrative privilege, as long as only one or two people are bothered by it? Especially if one of the two is a person that a significant people on LUGNET feel it's OK to bully? I just have to post here to say I (...) (18 years ago, 20-Feb-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX) !
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| (...) It seems that NONE of the admins received your e-mail, because the implication I've been reading is that NONE of them would have told you to go ahead. But the point is, you shouldn't need the admins to tell you when you are crossing that line, (...) (18 years ago, 19-Feb-07, to lugnet.admin.general)
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