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Re: malicious behavior
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Fri, 16 Feb 2007 06:41:34 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ross Crawford wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ross Crawford wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ross Crawford wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ross Crawford wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ross Crawford wrote:

   So please explain how that difference applies in this particular case?

You can’t assume that because he has posted on LUGNET a few times, he is reading or aware of anything that is going on on LUGNET.

I think you can assume that he is aware of whatever he replied to.

Conversely, you make my point. If he doesn’t reply to something, we can’t assume he’s read it, and it would be off his radar, or as I put it, “behind his back.” Your initial point was, because he posts now and then, he’s around and aware of what’s going on around here.

No, my initial point was because he posts now and then, I THINK he is still among the populace that reads Lugnet.

But you admitted that one doesn’t necessarily follow from the other, so I don’t know why you’d think THAT.

Because I DO.

Well, my point is that you have no reason to think that.

OK. Let’s try this from the other direction, kiddies.

The populace that still reads Lugnet is a group of people.

It contains many subgroups, for example:
  1. The people that still read lugnet.org.scibrick
  2. The people that still read a few groups once or twice a week because of the crap that spews forth from .off-topic.debate
  3. The people that still read all day every day just to see what crap is spewing forth from .off-topic.debate, and last but not least:
  4. The people that still read maybe 2 or 3 times a year just to reply to the odd thread
As an exercise, see how many more you can come up with by tomorrow.

Meanwhile, because lar is still in at least one of the sub-groups, I consider him a member of the umbrella populace. I’d call it a populus, but this isn’t a latin lesson.

He’s not necessarily in the “still reading” subgroup category. He could’ve been just popping over to LUGNET when he got “pinged” by a regular reader, or after a major event like an ILTCO convention. Which is exactly what I suspect is the case. His silence for the past 2 months could be the beginning of a yearlong drought of posting. God forbid, he could be dead and buried, for all you know.

  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   The only real way to know if someone is a regular reader is if that person posts often each week.

That’s one way, but not the ONLY way. Real or otherwise.

What? Consider my neighbor. Is he a regular reader of LUGNET or not?

Why don’t you ask him/her?

Why don’t you stop being obtuse and answer the question? I want to know another way you seem to THINK there is of knowing this information. And by “real”, I mean beyond seance, Ouija board, tarow cards, etc, and pure speculation.

I’m sorry for being so obtuse - I was simply pointing out that asking them is one other way to know (assuming you receive / believe the answer). Standing and looking over their shoulder while they read is another. Do you want me to go on?

You know my neighbor, and where we live? I chose my neighbor precisely because you don’t know him. You don’t know anything about him. Just as you don’t know anything about any given regular reader of LUGNET (who doesn’t post frequently). Get it?

Oh gees. What about if I ask you to ask your neighbour?

You seem to think this point is important. However once again, in the context of this thread, it is totally irrelevant, because the context was specifically about lar. And his email is relatively easy to find.

Ah, well, there you go. You know about his LUGNET reading habits because you emailed him and asked him, correct? No? Instead, you chose to rely on conjecture and speculation. You’ve chosen to treat him as if he were a total stranger (like my neighbor), and by doing so know nothing about his LUGNET reading habits.

In any event, I think that the odds are quite good that a single-post jab at him would fly under his sparse LUGNET radar. But further to the point, I think that if one is going to mock someone, they should at least have that person’s attention first rather than doing it behind their back. Al claims no malicious intent, and so the entire point is in fact, mute, except for your involvement.

One might get the impression that you are deliberately wasting my time. Say, your real name isn’t Wensleydale, is it?

JOHN



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  Re: malicious behavior
 
(...) He could also be still reading. (...) Why do you suspect that? (...) (URL) Oh I doubt it>. Of course that could just be someone impersonating him. (...) I never claimed to know about his Lugnet reading habits. (...) Or even moot. Yes, I do (...) (17 years ago, 16-Feb-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: malicious behavior
 
(...) OK. Let's try this from the other direction, kiddies. The populace that still reads Lugnet is a group of people. It contains many subgroups, for example: The people that still read lugnet.org.scibrick The people that still read a few groups (...) (17 years ago, 16-Feb-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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