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Re: Danish cartoons outrage some Moslem groups and nations
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Fri, 3 Feb 2006 19:32:30 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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But more and more I’m convinced that we’re not dealing with civilized
people. We’re dealing with brainwashed zealots--religious and/or
otherwise.
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To be fair, this insane response has not been echoed by American Muslims.
We must account for that as well....
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I want to clarify my response--the people that are ‘taking this to the
streets’ with the flag burning and the gun shooting and the life threatening
are the uncivilized people--not Muslims or people of middle eastern
countries.
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Glad you clarified, because now I really have no idea what you’re talking
about! Who and where and what are these people about whom you speak?
JOHN
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I’m saying that the people that are on the streets with the threatening of life
and the shooting of guns in the air and aprtaking in ‘violent demostrations’ are
the uncivilized people--it doesn’t matter if they’re muslim. christian,
agnostic, or believe in the Flying Spagetti Monster.
Reminds me of a Backer episode when Becker was on a tirade against pan-handlers
and people who sleep/eat/urinate in the streets. A local news reporter stated
that Becker was racist beause he was against blacks and other ethnic
minorities. Becker was then innundated with calls and threats about his
‘racist’ views. To resolve this, Becker did an interview with the reporter--at
which point the reporter defended his statement that Becker was a racist--he
pointed out that most homeless people in the area were black or ethnic
minorities. Becker stated that the reporter was the racist there--when Becker
stated that he wanted “them” off the streets, the “them” is the people who
urinate in the streets, not the entire ethnic group.
And therein lies all the difference in the world--I know some muslim
people--they aren’t out there in the streets or threatening peoples lives.
The cowards-behind-scarfs that are out there with guns and threatening the lives
of people are the uncivilized neanderthals.
Should other muslims denounce these jackasses? Absolutely. Do I require it?
Nope. When Pat Robertson yaps about strokes vs. Ariel Sharon and what-have-you,
I didn’t speak up and denounce him, either, even though I consider myself a
christian. I don’t have to stand up and renounce every stupid thing that other
christians do--it’s absurd.
What I will stand up and rally against is egregious acts against my fellow
person(s)--what I consider to be egregious, anyway--no matter who does ‘em. And
I’ll always point to the people committing these heinous acts--not the entire
religion or the nationality, or the country, of the person committing said acts.
Which is why, on a different bote, I’m slightly infuriated when I hear from
reporters and articles that the “US had no idea that starting the Iraqi war
would lead to the quagmire that we’re all in now” or that “the US had no idea
that war with Iraq would lead to more US animosity”
No, it wasn’t that the US had no idea, for I heard from many Americans that a
war with Iraq would lead to the exact concequences that we face today, but in
fact it was the US administration that was clueless. Let’s not place the blame
on 300+ million people--let’s place it where it truly lies--the supposed leader
and the rest of his inept administration.
But again, that’s just me.
Dave K
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