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Re: Why these news groups were created
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 28 Sep 2004 04:18:50 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Andrew Engstrom wrote:
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If humans do it, then its natural. Nothing humans can do or conceive of
doing is unnatural. Certain humans may find objectionable the actions of
certain other humans, but that doesnt make those actions unnatural.
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Another opinion. Do not make the mistake of stating opinion as fact. State
it as opinion. Until you do, it is very difficult to take seriously any
argument you make.
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You seem to be missing the point. Humans are part of nature, are they not?
If you disagree, then please articulate your argument. But if you agree,
then you must cede that anything that humans (who are subsets of the group
Nature) do is natural (i.e., part of nature).
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This brings up an idea that has been through my head on several occasions - if
you use the definition part of nature for natural, then what can be defined as
unnatural? After all, everything on this earth has been created by nature,
either directly or indirectly, hasnt it? Even the most amazing chemical
concoction has been made, in the end, from natural ingredients and know-how. Is
anything unnatural?
ROSCO
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Message has 1 Reply: | | Re: Why these news groups were created
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| (...) Well, everything that exists operates within the laws of nature, that doesn't mean it was created through natural processes. The natural ingredients and know-how that create a chemical concoction are natural, but the concoction itself isn't (...) (20 years ago, 28-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) That's not how you phrased the point, initially. You presented these actions in the context of a baby's actions, and that's how I addressed them. If you wish to change the question at this time, then you must either address or cede the (...) (20 years ago, 27-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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