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Subject: 
Too Froody Zaphod (was Re: False premise in this message needs to be identified as what it is )
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Date: 
Tue, 21 Sep 2004 19:00:26 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.nntp, David Eaton wrote:
   In lugnet.admin.nntp, Lee Meyer wrote:
   Taking an active stance that religious beliefs have no part in making LUGNET decisions, is not a neutral stance about how LUGNET feels about those of us with religious beliefs. After all this decision has all the atheists here standing up and applauding (and FYI if you aren’t aware - atheism is a form of religion - the religion of man)...most often found in secular humanist groups.

I can’t say I agree-- by saying that, you’re absolutely forcing LUGNET into a position of choosing a religion by arguing that something that’s *unreligious* is a religion in and of itself.

Hence, you could argue that nothing ever was religion-neutral. IBM, The New York Yankees (read “evil incarnate”), the US goverment, a bottle of Cheez Whiz: all religious. The Cheez Whiz doesn’t believe in God, therefore it’s atheistic? A puppy doesn’t believe in God, therefore it’s atheistic? How about a newborn baby? A 2-year-old? A 5-year-old? A 38-year-old? How about an autistic 38-year-old?

The implication Todd made by saying that LUGNET is religion neutral is that it’s decisions should not be made based on religious merit-- decisions should be made based on criteria that visibly affect LUGNET. Now, you could argue that God affects LUGNET, but seeing as how you could also say the same for Allah, Zeus, or the Almighty Ford Prefect, all with similar visible evidence, we’re safer just relying on stuff we can visibly see.


Oh man, we’re really gonna need a towel.

   Will it make community members happy? Some yes, some no. Will it cause people to leave LUGNET? Possibly, but hopefully not. Does it fit with the LUGNET plan? Sure. Will it violate any laws? Nope. Is having such a group detrimental to LUGNET readers? Not if we’ve got skip-filters. Does Zeus approve? Uh, I dunno! So I’m not gonna try and factor that one in, and apparently (and thankfully by my book) neither does Todd & co.

DaveE

FUT .debate

Don’t Panic! :p

-Alfred



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  Re: Too Froody Zaphod (was Re: False premise in this message needs to be identified as what it is )
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Alfred Speredelozzi wrote: <snip> (...) Did you sass that hoopy Alfred? He's a really cool frood who knows where his towel is... Dave K (20 years ago, 21-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: False premise in this message needs to be identified as what it is
 
(...) I can't say I agree-- by saying that, you're absolutely forcing LUGNET into a position of choosing a religion by arguing that something that's *unreligious* is a religion in and of itself. Hence, you could argue that nothing ever was (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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