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Re: “family-safe” ? (Re: Lavender Brick Society)
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Fri, 17 Sep 2004 11:49:16 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Lee Meyer wrote:

   If intolerance is supposed to be a criteria for cancelling posts, most of the homosexualists’

What does this term mean?

   posts would also have to be pulled off as well.

Just to be clear, cancelling posts without prior request by the author is exceedingly rare here (it has happened one time in the entire history of the site and that was to avoid legal action and was done when there appeared to be no other recourse after much trying to avoid it, as I understand it).

   It’s rather hypocritical to be tolerant (read ‘approving’)

I do not read ‘tolerant’ == ‘approving’, and I think you make an unhelpful equality if you do.

I tolerate a *lot* of things that I do not approve of. Any behaviour that does not violate the rights of others, even if massively self destructive (which sexual orientation is NOT) is fine by me.

   of only those people who are tolerant of you, and intolerant of those you feel are intolerant of you. Basically this is a kindergarten mindset of “I’ll like you if you like me, but I’ll hate you if you hate me.” Welcome to the new tolerance.

That’s rather a poor spin to put on it.

I don’t care for intolerance of things that I tolerate. I’ll tolerate it, as long as it’s merely opinion. But if that intolerance shades over from opinion into action that deprives the rights of those the intolerant person doesn’t tolerate, then I don’t tolerate it.

The KKK can hold whatever asinine opinions they like, privately, or even publicly, if expressed peacably, but when they shade over into harassing people or burning crosses, they have crossed a line.

I have to say when I went to bed last night I was rather pleased and impressed with the course of this discussion overall. Rather more use of profanity than I prefer, or that the ToS allows for, but in general, quite well reasoned opinions and quite civil discourse.

I’m not sure I feel quite as good this morning, some of the newer posts have seemed to take a less tolerant bent and I’m not pleased by that. To a certain extent, it may be moot anyway.



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(...) If intolerance is supposed to be a criteria for cancelling posts, most of the homosexualists' posts would also have to be pulled off as well. It's rather hypocritical to be tolerant (read 'approving') of only those people who are tolerant of (...) (20 years ago, 17-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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