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Subject: 
Re: suspended Bricklink shops
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lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.market.brickshops
Date: 
Mon, 23 Aug 2004 17:13:23 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Kevin Blocksidge wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Kevin Blocksidge wrote:
> > 
> > > I think that the point Suz was trying to make is that often Lar is right.
> > > Lar sees a problem, he doesn't stay quiet and live with it. He tried to fix
> > > the problem.  In this case, he used something like civil disobedience to
> > > make a point.
> > 
> > But the disobedient civilian must accept the price for his disobedience,
> > otherwise it's just posturing like a rhinoceros.  In the same way that a
> > journalist should be willing to go to jail to protect his treasonous source, a
> > Bricklink customer should be willing to accept the ban if he willingly violates
> > the TOS on principle.
> 
> 
> I am not sure, but I haven't seen anything from Lar saying that he is mad or
> thinks he was treated unjust.  If he has, I'll have to rethink my position
> 
> > > It's not because it is "The Great Lar++", it is because Larry is consistently
> > > acting in the best interest of the community.  If he didn't often point out
> > > problems and than help fix him, he wouldn't be "The Great Lar++".
> > > 
> > > His history shows that people should consider what he says, not ban him for
> > > insubordination.
> > 
> > As I read the thread-tree on Bricklink, he was banned for willful violation of
> > the TOS, in which case the ban is appropriate.  As has been pointed out
> > elsewhere, Lar has vocally supported the banning of TOS-violators, and he's
> > endorsed elaborate ceremonies of capitulation to reinstate those violators.
> > Therefore he should certainly be held to that same standard.
> 
> I agree, he was rightfully banned, no argueing there.  But on the other hand,
> the rules themselves should be changed (ie: continuous stock)


He changed the wording from TOS violation, to non-TOS violation.

So why was he banned?

-Rob.



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: suspended Bricklink shops
 
(...) Why? It has been said many times why. (URL) as others pointed out this part of the BL ToS: (URL) Breach. -snip- We also reserve the right to terminate your membership and your data and deny you access to any of the site's features at any time (...) (22 years ago, 23-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: suspended Bricklink shops
 
(...) Uhhh... has anyone in an official position actually said the revised wording has ceased to be a ToS violation ? IMHO (and IANAL) any attempt to keep a lot active, but not purchaseable, runs afoul of the ToS from two directions... 1) There is a (...) (22 years ago, 23-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.market.brickshops)

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  Re: suspended Bricklink shops
 
(...) I am not sure, but I haven't seen anything from Lar saying that he is mad or thinks he was treated unjust. If he has, I'll have to rethink my position (...) I agree, he was rightfully banned, no argueing there. But on the other hand, the rules (...) (22 years ago, 23-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.market.brickshops)

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