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Subject:	Re: We'll take in your poor, your homeless, your oppressed...
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Thu, 8 Jul 2004 01:23:21 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote: > As for the UN, I can't recall nearly as many cases of the UN stating that a > government was legitimate (dejure governance) as I can recall reports of coups > (defacto governance). Typo! This should read "wasn't legitimate" rather than was. That is, the UN hardly ever says anything bad about a government's legitimacy, compared to the number of coups. So the UN seems to see coups as (at least defacto) an OK way to change governments. Or so it would seem. Just about every government out there, even ones that almost anyone would agree were imposed without any choice by the citizenry, seems to have a seat there, after all.

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		Re: We'll take in your poor, your homeless, your oppressed...
(...) This is an interesting point. But then, I'm begining to really question democracy as the most effective way of ruling a people. Sometimes coups occur because the masses make the wrong decision (ie, Musharraf taking over Pakistan to keep it (...) (20 years ago, 8-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: We'll take in your poor, your homeless, your oppressed...
(...) What is the alternative when it is often the people in these countries which can benefit most from what the UN can provide (e.g. direct aid and peace keeping)? Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 8-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: We'll take in your poor, your homeless, your oppressed...
Snipped much away. (...) However, is there a distinction between recognising the reality of a strongman being in power through force, and recognising the legitimacy of his rule? I'm just asking. But I suspect that many countries, operating in the (...) (20 years ago, 8-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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