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Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
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Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:49:29 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
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I would go one step farther and assert that the belief in an admitted logical
impossibility is not much different from insanity.
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Yeah, that’s why I used the word “delusion.”
Delusion -- The act or process of deluding; The state of being deluded; A false
belief or opinion; Psychiatry A false belief strongly held in spite of
invalidating evidence, especially as a symptom of mental illness.
Xtianity is so internally conflicted that I think it absolutely requires
constant shifts in belief to allow for different passages of the Bible to all be
simultaneously true. Of course, we know that John thinks of some of it as just
pretty little “stories” -- well then, why can’t we just toss out the whole
thing? Oh right, because other bits are 100% true!
John has no basis for anything he argues -- it’s all just assertion after
assertion after assertion. Like this:
Stephen Hawking in A Brief History Of Time starts with this anecdote.
A well-known scientist (some say it was Bertrand Russell) once gave a public
lecture on astronomy. He described how the earth orbits around the sun and how
the sun, in turn, orbits around the centre of a vast collection of stars called
our galaxy.
At the end of the lecture, a little old lady at the back of the room got up and
said: “What you have told us is rubbish. The world is really a flat plate
supported on the back of a giant tortoise.”
The scientist gave a superior smile before replying, “What is the tortoise
standing on?”
“You’re very clever, young man, very clever,” said the old lady. “But it’s
turtles all the way down.”
Well, it isn’t turtles all the way down. But that’s what you have in someone
like John -- the escape into unreason!
“Standing behind this image of god is this image of god. Standing behind this
image of god is this image of god. Standing behind this image of god is this
image of god. Standing behind this image of god is this image of god. Standing
behind this image of god is this image of god. Standing behind this image of god
is this image of god. Etc.”
He’s like a man adrift on a raft upon the oceans of his own mind.
-- Hop-Frog
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