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  Re: George McGovern quote
 
(...) I'll bite and expand it a little. Since the rich would not have been able to get rich in the first place without the benefit of the system and people on whose backs they climbed (the low income schlubs who work for them), they *do* owe a debt (...) (25 years ago, 21-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: George McGovern quote
 
(...) But are you referring to a socialist society or a capitalist society? Surely, in a socialist society, you owe everything to everyone, and in a capitalist one you owe it all to yourself. How about we start with a given: we need both. A purely (...) (25 years ago, 21-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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