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Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color)
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Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:45:57 GMT
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On Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:52:16 GMT, "Tom McDonald"
<radiotitan@spamcake.yahoo.com> wrote:

Yeah, what if Satan just suddenly gave up?  Admitted he was a jerk and
wrong, and honestly (how could you hide it from God?) asked for
forgiveness?

If you believe the axiom that "God knows everything" (and that I know is a
muchly overused notion) and that he is all-wise, then it's not hard to stretch
and say that God knows (and has apparently declared) that Satan is
incorrigible. It seems the Underworld won't ever be passing out snow parkas.

Augh!  Now you're talking about predestination.  That's been a theological
hot button for quite awhile.  Does God already know who's going to be
saved, and who isn't?  And how is His knowing different from Him selecting?
Is there actually free will, or it an illusion of our existence?

That's the kicker for me: if there's no free will, then what's the point?
I can deal with life having no greater meaning; ie, I'm alright with the
question being "what is the purpose of life?" and the answer being
"nothing".  But I can't deal with the thought that this is just a big
preplanned stageplay, and we're helpless meatpuppets.

Steve



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(...) stretch (...) I'm talking about knowing how something will react before it happens. For two examples, it's like saying you know Lego can stand temps up to 104 degrees F without ever having testing it if you had sufficient knowledge of the (...) (25 years ago, 24-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) If you believe the axiom that "God knows everything" (and that I know is a muchly overused notion) and that he is all-wise, then it's not hard to stretch and say that God knows (and has apparently declared) that Satan is incorrigible. It seems (...) (25 years ago, 23-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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