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Re: 22/7 & infinities (was: Re: The nature of the JC god, good or evil?)
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Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:20:45 GMT
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Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote in message
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> Feel free to call me on those, as I've said, to be an atheist is
> difficult. It requires deep thought!...
How? All you do is sit around hacking away at other people's views without
offering any workable alternatives (much like you do with your politics).
How much thought does it take to claim that everything you can't touch
doesn't exist? I'd hate to see what you're telling your kids about love.
And why do I get the feeling you're going to be just one more in a long line
of atheists I know who have read "the entire Bible" (seems they all claim
they have) in search of answers they'll never find because they don't want
to hear those types of answers anyway? You're ignoring questions put to you
and refusing to think about any of this. How much thought does it really
take? Let us in on this deep thought process that you went through to
become an atheist.
Atheism takes more faith than anything else, as you're claiming the
non-existence of things you can't see. You can't prove it, you just sit
around telling people to command their God to show Himself, as if He was at
our beck and call (or hasn't already shown Himself in things from the beauty
of science to the beauty of a newborn). You're not agnostic, claiming that
5 billion people (a rough approximation of the people in the world who
believe in some form of God) might be wrong, you're atheist, claiming that 5
billion people *are* wrong, and that a God you refuse to see won't reveal
Himself to you. That takes a lot of faith, in your past, your present, and
especially in your future. In your past, you're little more than a highly
evolved monkey, in your present you've got nothing but yourself, and in your
future you're dead and nothing you've ever done will matter (except in some
esoteric "for the children!" kind of way). Everything you think and feel
are the physical aftereffects of biochemical reactions, nothing more. You
have nothing inside you that makes you different from anyone else. Your
logic, your thoughts, your standards, all fabricated. It takes a lot of
faith in something to keep on going like that.
I prefer the security of knowing I was more than an accident, and that the
things I do have eternal significance. I like my God, and if He wants to
define justice as giving you your entire life to accept Christ and then
basing all of eternity on that decision, then so be it. He may not live up
to your standards of justice, but you haven't told us where you get your
standards of justice in the first place. If you get them from this world,
then why are you surprised that they disagree with God's standards? The
Bible paints a picture of man in rebellion against God, why shouldn't his
definitions be different? Why are you surprised that God condemns as sin
things people today don't want to call sin (sex outside of marriage,
homosexuality, drunkenness, gluttony)? As difficult as they are, I prefer
God's standards, because it means that there are standards that are
absolute, and that things like bestiality and pedophilia are absolutely
wrong, not just some evil today that are going to be perfectly acceptable
someday. I'd rather be a sinner in a world of perfect standards and have a
chance to be forgiven than be perfect in my own self-defined universe that
doesn't even extend beyond my own mind.
Are you a Star Trek (or Star Wars) nitpicker, by any chance?
Jesse
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