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Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
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Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:19:22 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
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> > I suppose that depends on what level of socialism you are refering to.
> > Virtually every nation on the planet practices
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> Practices...
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> Amen, brother. They all **practice** it, but none of them have gotten it to
> WORK.
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> > some form of socialism, so
> > I'd have to say that your claim that socialism working is counterfactual
> > is...well, counterfactual.
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> Don't confuse using with working. I'm happy with my claim, socialism doesn't
> **work**.
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> ++Lar
I'm happy with a claim that anything done to the point of the exclusion of
*anything else*, doesn't work.
Pure democracy does not work, for it's 'mob rule'--the most voices dictate
what happens and the underdogs get pushed to the side.
Like anything, you need a balance--Oxygen is needed for us to live, however,
if someone breaths just *pure* oxygen, he or she will die. Likewise, we
need water to live, but if someone were to base their entire diet on pure
water and nothiing else, they will, as well, die.
Canada is a democratic nation. However, because there is in place
safeguards to protect the 'less fortunate', and we have 'free medical' for
everybody in Canada, and other stuff, we, as a country, have socialist
tendancies.
It is my belief that 'pure' democracy will only come into its own when the
selfish tendencies of 'the masses' is eliminated--Picture the following in a
pure democratic culture:
"We have this here vote proposed which would take some of your hard earned
dollars from you and build a structure for those less fortunate--do you want
to pass this provision? (yes/no)"
The selfish part in me says I wanna keep my hard earned money for me, and
therefore, bottom line, 'screw my neighbour'.
The 'socialist' part of me says I should help look after those in need.
Thank goodness there's the government, which, though sometimes badly, takes
care of things like UI, medical and such. The accountability for gov't
comes every 4-5 years when we get to vote the bums out of office :)
What do people call it--a democratic tyranny, in which we vote someone in to
take care of the country for 4-5 years.
Right now, until we evolve into selfless people, it's the best of all
possible systems.
Dave K.
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| (...) Ok, lets explore this. You say that people tend to want to not want to help, that they would vote to keep the money for themselves, and that only a government can convince them to help others. Well, what is the government made up of? Last I (...) (22 years ago, 12-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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