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Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
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Date: 
Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:16:03 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:

> If you wish to say 'under no God' then, by all rights and freedoms you have
> that right.  Just as I have the right to say it.  I'm not one of those
> 'right winger' politicians who stood up and yelled about taking the words
> 'Under God' out of the pledge.  I'm glad they're out.  If you want to go for
> the penny 'in God we Trust' as well, all the power to you.  As for me and my
> house, we'll follow the Lord.  Jesus said 'render unto Caesar that which is
> Caesar's, render unto God that which is the Lords.'  I don't need a phrase
> in a pledge, or a saying on a penny to believe in God.  I just want the
> freedom to practice what I believe--that's all.

  Hooray--we agree!  That's been my intended point all along, in both this
exchange and in the previous debate a month or so ago!  I absolutely,
totally, completely, and unequivocally support your right to religious
freedom and freedom of speech!  What I reject is the State's attempt to
mandate one religion (monotheism) when in fact the State has no right even
to offer an official opinion on the issue.

> It is now stated and I wholeheartedly agree with you--we need consistancy
> with rulings, and the bias of a lifestyle should not be the defining
> factor--if something is found unconstitutional, that unconstitutional ruling
> should be supported, when the ruling is in favour of your personal beliefs
> *as well as* when the ruling goes against your personal beliefs.

   Exactly!  Now we're getting somewhere!

     Dave!



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  Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
 
(...) I have no problem with people believing in whatever religion they want. However, when the State, through the public school system, offers *financial* support for an institution of religion, then that crosses the line. The Bible Club should be (...) (24 years ago, 10-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) My point is that it is okay to protect *all* matters of freedom of religious expression up and until people fly planes into buildings... k, that was a little far--my personal philosophy has *always* been that anyone can believe what they want (...) (24 years ago, 10-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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