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Re: Be careful what you ask for in case you actually get it (was: slight)
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Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:28:31 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> I'm not sure of the point of the selective recap, but I'll let the others
> answer for themselves.
> 
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
> 
> > > So yes, the bottom line for me is the scientific method is wonderful for
> > > investigating that which can be understood by science (i.e. the physical
> > > universe).  To say it's good for *everything* is making science into a god.
> > > That would be my assertion.
> > 
> > If we can agree, then we can all go home.  I'll even take out the i.e.
> > physical universe bit and not try to reduce science to *just* the physical
> > universe.
> 
> "Once there was a way, to get back home...."

"Take the long way home..." (my favourite song from my favourite group...)

> 
> You are the one equating science and god.  Yes, I know, you are staring at
> your screen and saying, "I never said that.  I don't believe that."
> 
> First, you just said it.  You aren't quoting anyone above, you are just
> trying to define someone else as believing that, but only in your opinion
> ("that would be my assetation").  The point is, you are the one expressing
> the opinion, and everyone on this board has denied the validity of your claim.
> 
> You don't believe that (that science = god).  So?  You are still the only
> one trying to establish the connection.  You are doing so to undermine those
> that you don't agree with rather than actually establish that science = god,
> but it doesn't change the fact that you are the only one saying such.
> 
> So, no, we don't agree.
> 
> Just so you understand and don't try the Reading 101 defense, I took a
> reading comprehension test in college, amusingly at the same time my sister
> was taking the exact same test in high school.  The high school scores
> clustered around 25-30 (on a 0-99 scale).  I think the highest was in the
> fifties.  My college class averaged in the fifties, with the second highest
> in the high seventies.  I was at 89.  I passed the maximum test of 99 by
> course end.  No one else reached my starting point.  I suspect reading
> convoluted war game rules (ahhh, the heady days of SPI legalese) had a lot
> to do with it.
> 
> Of course, anyone can make an error, and I am not immune.  But others are
> telling you the same thing, so perhaps it is time for you to consider, like
> the "I never said evolution isn't science" claim, that perhaps the one that
> isn't isn't grasping the concept is you.
> 
> Bruce

Then consider it grasped, my friend.  I made a statement that equated
science as a god, and for that, I apologize.

If I say that science is not a god, can we agree on that?

Then I'll find my way home.

Dave K.



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(...) Home again, home again, Jiggedty jig. Bruce Still round the corner there may wait, A new road or a seret gate; And though I oft have passed them by, A day will come at last when I Shall take the hidden paths that run West of the Moon, East of (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Supertramp (was: Be careful ....)
 
(...) I kinda like "Fool's overture" and "Babaji" (can you guess my fave album?) ROSCO (24 years ago, 18-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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I'm not sure of the point of the selective recap, but I'll let the others answer for themselves. (...) "Once there was a way, to get back home...." You are the one equating science and god. Yes, I know, you are staring at your screen and saying, "I (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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