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Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 3 Jul 2002 23:25:55 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
(snip)
> > We didn't kick up a stink when we didn't like something--we worked within
> > the system and basically achieved the same status a our southen neighbours
> > vis a vis independance from the British Empire, and we did it without
> > pissing other nations off.
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> Wimps;-)
Hardly. And they still managed to rush in help of the "mother nation" when
it was needed - loyalty is still a quality!
> > Pearl Harbour - a day which will live in infamy--as if Germany walking into
> > Poland wasn't. WWII was well underway before Pearl Harbour happened.
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> Of course. But it wasn't *our* war yet (although we were exporting like mad to
> support the allies-- lend-lease, etc)
Maybe this can help explain why there is resentment in Europe against the
USA: they made fortune with other's war, in the first third of it. It really
does not help your argument that the USA "rushed" to save Europe from the
jaws of totalitarianism (sp?).
> > The
> > point there was unless US interests are directly at stake, it seems the
> > policy is to ignore what's going on in the rest of the world.
>
> Well, shouldn't it be thus?
China did it for 1000+ years - then when they found out, there were all
these European settlements in their coastline. Isolationism is unsustainable
for long, ask them if they want to hear about it in the present.
> > I'm not belittling the achivements, the sacrifices, and the greatness that
> > is the United States of America.
> >
> > Here's the thing--I heard this years ago. Some guy was at some national
> > sports event and watched the crowd singing the national anthem. Most folks
> > there sang it with vim and vigour and passion and shouting and just really
> > got into it. However, there was one person, so the author noted, that sang
> > with a small, prayerful voice. When people think they are the greatest,
> > they take things for granted--they are blinded by their own
> > achievements--that is, until someone else comes along and gives them a
> > wake-up call.
>
> Did you hear this on WW... >;^D
> >
> > Canada just celebrated its 135 last weekend
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> Congratulations-- here's to another 135!
>
> (3 days before the US ;P) We're
> > pretty happy that we're Canadian as well. I am thankful of what I have and
> > I thank God as much as I possibly can that I was born in Canada. But I
> > ain't the greatest. I am, we all are, children on this planet. Not one
> > child is 'greater' than the others. It is, again, presumptive arrogance
> > that says we are.
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> "Children on this planet" kind of talk scares me-- I respect you much more when
> you say you are proud to be a Canadian.
>
> I agree that Canada is a great country. The world could learn a thing or two
> WRT to our respective countries relationship together. One of the funniest
> movies I have ever seen is "Canadian Bacon", because the premise is so
> preposterous, (and Canadians are such good humor)
OTOH, take "South Park - bigger, longer and uncut"... :-P
(I agree though, there is much to be learnt from the relationship between
Canada and the USA. And it includes the "Pig war"! :-)
Pedro
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