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Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
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Sat, 22 Dec 2001 23:57:45 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti writes:

Why not?  It is only by exposure to all kinds of stimuli that children are
able to understand and begin to make sense of the world around them.

Richard, do you think there are any ideas or images to which access should be
prevented or restricted?  I was once offended by an afternoon TV show about
coprophilia at the perfect time for kids to come home from school and flip on
the TV.  I am uneasy about my kids exposing themselves to such ideas.

Porn has *everything* to do with money and nothing to do with
creativity.

This is false.  Eroticism is part of what it is to be human.  If you want to
shut off that part of yourself, and close the door for your children on it
until they are 18 -- fine, go ahead.

Is that really fine?  Do we really want to stand by and allow that to happen to
some children merely because the children are genetically closer to those who
would do so than they are to us?  What do you envision as the "right" place for
minors in our legal system with regard to protection and rights?  These are
questions that I have not yet worked satisfactory answers out for myself.

You are trying to squelch a perfectly
natural, normal, and healthy human motivation -- people are sexual, they act
on their sexuality, they create art about their sexuality, they like to
observe other's sexuality...

People are sexy. Deal.

And the real thing with this is that _people_ are sexy, not just people over
eighteen.

You want to talk about protecting your kids, John

I want to protect kids too.  But only from bad things.  Not from natural and
good things.  Not from themselves.  Not from free expression of their needs and
desires.

-- I want to talk about sex in public places.

You want to be in public places and talk about sex, or you want to discuss
public displays of sexuality?  I think we need more of both.

You want people to feel bad and hide normal, healthy
expressions of their sexuality away from public view -- I want it out in the
open because I think guilt and shame are more damaging to the human spirit
than pouring radiactive waste on DNA.

I understand that some people are ofended by public breastfeeding too.  Weird.

Chris



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  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes: <snip> (...) Yah, no kidding. I want to chime in here for a bit. What *is* the big deal about this? I thought the government was supposed to be seperate from the church, yet it seems that most (...) (23 years ago, 23-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
First, let me say that I have not so far in my own life ever had a child. I may never have a child. So perhaps you may think I don't have an educated opinion. In fact, most of my views come from how I was raised. So really, if you have a beef with (...) (23 years ago, 23-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) You will also find that many people who act so liberal about it get very uncomfortable to see a woman breastfeeding a baby over six or eight months old, say. Yet in many cultures (and presumably in ours at one time) children breastfeed for a (...) (23 years ago, 23-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) Why not? It is only by exposure to all kinds of stimuli that children are able to understand and begin to make sense of the world around them. (...) This is false. Eroticism is part of what it is to be human. If you want to shut off that part (...) (23 years ago, 22-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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