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Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
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Date: 
Sat, 22 Dec 2001 22:15:31 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
In lugnet.mediawatch, John Neal writes:

to me...Creating "adult" movies out of LEGO MFs is just plain stupid and
tasteless.

So?

My opinion.

To me, LEGO bricks are a hobby.  They are a really fun thing to collect and
to to build with for many of us.  I know that some of us have started
reselling LEGO bricks via Brickbay, some of us have done commissioned works
for LEGO sculptures, and some of us have made movies.  I'm one of the ones
that makes movies.

Oh, really Jason?  Are all LEGO hobbies that equal?  I sell bricks on
Brickbay, you display LEGO porn-- sorry, I don't buy it.

John, good point!  At least Jason is promoting creativity.

So why sully a good thing by allowing such filth?

Filth is in the eye of the beholder.

And I don't want filth in the eye of my or anyone else's child.

If the "sole" purpose of your site is to promote "quality
film-making", then why the hell are you displaying this type of
material???!!!  Sorry to break the news to you since you seem not
to have already heard: porn *isn't* quality.

Sorry to break it to you, but 'porn' and 'quality' are not mutually exclusive.

Please cite examples, or are you speaking hypothetically?

It is an economic happenstance that porn is boring.

Come again?  Porn has *everything* to do with money and nothing to do with
creativity.

  There is no reason that I
can think of that cineatic depictions can't include sexuality and still be
riviting.

Must be *some* reason, otherwise I would imagine that the free market would have
already exploited it.

But we are all more or less mature here

You moron!  What an ignorant thing to say! *Anybody* can read
LUGNET!  *Anybody* can download your trash!

You really have outdone yourself John.  Simply amazing!

So I was a little harsh.  But really!  We are all *not* more or less mature
here!  It's that kind of naivity and disregard that concerns me.

There is room for serious, gritty movies and children's fantasy. There is
room for serious brick animations and whimsical comedies. There is room for
all kinds of movies here.

Really?  Maybe there isn't.  Maybe you should do what adult sites do and • require
some adult ID check before people can enter your site.  That would be the
responsible thing to do.

That would be the cowardly thing to do.

Cowardly?  How so?

  Why isn't an abstract of the work
sufficient to steer those who want to view it toward it and those who don't
away?

For adults that's fine; I'm concerned about kids.

-John

Chris



Message has 3 Replies:
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
John, first of all, I owe you a thanks. I was kind of excited by your tone in some notes and I wrote more hotly than was wise. You either didn't take it that way or only calmly replied. Thanks. (...) But I'm saying that it might not _be_ filth in my (...) (23 years ago, 22-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) Why not? It is only by exposure to all kinds of stimuli that children are able to understand and begin to make sense of the world around them. (...) This is false. Eroticism is part of what it is to be human. If you want to shut off that part (...) (23 years ago, 22-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) Rather narrow-minded opinion at that. (...) Ah, now that's your right... (...) Now here, you need to BUTT OUT! Quit forcing your narrow-minded morality on everyone else. (...) Quality film-MAKING has nothing to do with the content. Is that so (...) (23 years ago, 28-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) So? (...) John, good point! At least Jason is promoting creativity. (...) Filth is in the eye of the beholder. (...) Sorry to break it to you, but 'porn' and 'quality' are not mutually exclusive. It is an economic happenstance that porn is (...) (23 years ago, 22-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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