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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Eaton writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Eaton writes:
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> > > Such sweeping assumptions on causality. Tsk tsk.
> >
> > Tsk tsk yourself. I'm comfortable I've got the causes pegged correctly.
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> > http://www.nationalreview.com/15oct01/jos101501.shtml
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> ?
> That doesn't touch the basic premise of my point. Perhaps I should point out
> that fault != bad. Saying that the US isn't at fault is erroneous. Saying
> that you stand behind our actions insofar as you think things would have
> been *WORSE* had we acted differently or not at all is what I expect you to
> mean. Per your example, I expect that you think that the one who could have
> acted *BETTER* was FB Sr.-- NOT the state that imprisons him. But I would
> not expect one to say "the state is not at fault".
>
> Perhaps I would be so persnickity as to point out at such an admission that
> it might be possible for the state to act *slightly* better, but not so much
> better as to allow a situation in which little FB gets his Xbox. I.E. the
> "bad" part of the fault lies even MORESO on FB Sr. percentagewise than the
> whole part of the fault.
>
> DaveE
Nope. That cite in fact does get to the root of the assertion you make.
Saying that FB Sr. has an out because he had a bad childhood is egregious
bogosity.
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| (...) An "out"? I never said he had an "out". An "out" implies removal of responsibility perhaps, but not of fault. Perhaps a re-reading of my two posts is in order. I feel a little like I'm entering the "Scott-and-Larry show" on this one... DaveE (25 years ago, 4-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) that fault != bad. Saying that the US isn't at fault is erroneous. Saying that you stand behind our actions insofar as you think things would have been *WORSE* had we acted differently or not at all is what I expect you to mean. Per your (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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