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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
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> > ==+==
> > In 1996, Madeleine Albright, then the US secretary of state, was asked on
> > national television what she felt about the fact that 500,000 Iraqi children
> > had died as a result of US economic sanctions. She replied that it was "a
> > very hard choice", but that, all things considered, "we think the price is
> > worth it".
> > ==+==
> >
> > Do you agree with her?
>
> This is a "have you stopped beating your dog" question. Shame on you.
>
> Madeline Albright is not my nominee for best Secretary of State for the 20th
> century, and her answer to this question is part of the reason why.
>
> I reject that 500K children in Iraq have died since sanctions were imposed.
> That statistic itself is questionable. I note you haven't debunked it,
> merely cited it again.
>
> I reject that the sanctions are the REASON that children (however many)
> died. The sanctions do not prevent the flow of food into the country.
Agree with all that.
> I reject that even if the sanctions actually *caused* the death of even 1
> child that it's the fault of the imposers of the sanctions for the deaths.
> The *fault* lies with the lawless dictator Hussein, not the US.
Don't really agree with this, however I think it's pointless debating who's at
fault in such a case. Probably more important is the fact that the US let
Saddam's propaganda machine continue, so there's probably a few million Iraqis
who believe the US *is* the cause of their problems. I think a huge propaganda
campaign (in Iraq) by the US following the gulf war may've been a good idea,
though whether or not it would've been effective (or possible) without storming
Bagdad and ousting Hussein is debatable.
ROSCO
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| (...) You don't agree with this then: from: (URL) OF SANCTIONS DIRECT EFFECTS (immediate) 1. Decreased Imports Medicines Food Imports Agricultural Inputs - fertilizer, pesticides, spare parts Industrial/Commercial inputs/parts Other spare parts Fuel (...) (24 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) <snip first two parts of rebuttal> (...) No, it is in fact quite important, else you leave things hanging and you leave things open to the chattering classes claiming that 911 was our fault, for example. Let's try an analogy. Suppose Fred (...) (24 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) This is a "have you stopped beating your dog" question. Shame on you. Madeline Albright is not my nominee for best Secretary of State for the 20th century, and her answer to this question is part of the reason why. I reject that 500K children (...) (24 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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